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Glassa
| | #1 posted July 26, 2004 at 6:03pm (EDT) |
I think this is what is meant by "pro-abortion."
http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:store.yahoo.c... | cerealkiller  
| | #2 posted July 26, 2004 at 6:30pm (EDT) |
I am totally pro-abortion/mandatory forced abortion after two rugrats. But advertising it on a t-shirt is very strange. | Iseult 
| | #3 posted July 26, 2004 at 6:46pm (EDT) |
People put all kinds of crap on their shirts today. There are shirts with even worse message (eg like racist and anti-Semitic). | darkshadowsseeker
| | #4 posted July 26, 2004 at 7:17pm (EDT) |
While I support a woman's reproductive rights, I find that shirt tacky! | southernyankee 
| | #5 posted July 26, 2004 at 7:41pm (EDT) |
man, the stupid dumbass, tacky, hateful, degenerate t-shirts that are out there.
well, that's just people for ya.
What can you say.
| LuridHope
| | #6 posted July 26, 2004 at 9:59pm (EDT) |
This is sickness piled upon sickness piled upon lies. | LuridHope
| | #7 posted July 26, 2004 at 9:59pm (EDT) |
You make me sick! | iamdonte
| | #8 posted July 26, 2004 at 10:45pm (EDT) |
What are you talking about? | jettles 
| | #9 posted July 27, 2004 at 7:06am (EDT) |
i don't think it is something to be ashamed of!!!!! | Maarten
| | #10 posted July 27, 2004 at 9:41am (EDT) |
I am pro-choice, but this seems a little odd to me. | dora
| | #11 posted July 27, 2004 at 1:17pm (EDT) |
For the simple reason you are pro-choice, not pro-abortion. what fool would be "pro" abortion. Is like being pro-amputation. Sometimes necessary, and healthy, and a damn right, but not something lovely you would put on a t-shirt.
Only the hardcore pro-life think that being pro-choice means being pro-abortion!
The pro-choice have their faults, too, especially in America where it seems to be "fine" to abort almost fully developed fetus. 
Like for everything you need a balance.
| cerealkiller
| | #12 posted July 27, 2004 at 1:40pm (EDT) |
Why, because I have no use for dirty, snotty, emotional, overactive little rats? My wife feels the same way. We rarely see the grandchildren which is just fine with us. Let them reach 11 or 12 then maybe they'll act like human beings and not total idiots.
I seriously would support mandatory limits on children. Especially for all the mexicans and other poor minorities around here who apparently don't believe in birth control. | Lelannd
| | #13 posted July 27, 2004 at 2:11pm (EDT) |
Hey, I agree with you. Kids suck. Noisy, dirty little creatures. | LindaH  
| | #14 posted July 27, 2004 at 10:34pm (EDT) |
Why would you be against other people having them, just because you have no use for them? Some people ADORE kids, and as long as they can provide for them, they should be able to have them. | Lelannd
| | #15 posted July 28, 2004 at 12:59pm (EDT) |
Probably because CK hates to be out and hear screaming noisy kids in restaurants, seeing obnoxious kids in stores pleading for their parents to buy them toys, running into them with grocery carts, having to honk your horn at them because they are playing in the street and won't move, stuff like that. That's how I feel about it. | cerealkiller
| | #16 posted July 28, 2004 at 1:45pm (EDT) |
There are too many people in this world. Having 4 or more kids is being irresponsible in my opinion. I worked with a Mormon guy who had 9 kids. He even forgot one once and drove home from the bank minus a kid.
Two children are more than enough to bring into the world. And, all children should be banned from supermarkets, be given sedatives on airplances or at least gagged and in restaurants there should be a separate sound-proof section for parents ignorant enough to bring crying, screaming little animals with them.
Most people I think have a 'button' inside of them, that when pushed, makes you want to hit something or somebody. You know. Like a sound, type of music, chalk on a blackboard, someone eating with their mouth open, etc. The two biggest things that set me off are: someone crunching loudly on food, especially in a quiet office. And, children opening up their mouths - crying, screaming or insanely talking loudly. Even my wife, a former mother of rugrats, comments to me when hearing children making noise, "Don't you hate that sound?". | spidertea
| | #17 posted July 28, 2004 at 5:58pm (EDT) |
well said | LindaH
| | #18 posted July 28, 2004 at 7:57pm (EDT) |
Oh, OK well maybe there should be more "child free" places. | cerealkiller
| | #19 posted July 31, 2004 at 10:15pm (EDT) |
Exactly. Some supermarkets advertise check-out lanes with no candy and other stimulants the little buggers will beg for. I know I'll never see an entire store that will advertise "no children allowed", but I'd sure appreciate "adults only" checkout lanes.
Seriously, though, why IS it that human children take so many years to mature emotionally? Their minds catch on pretty quickly intellectually, but they are out of control emotionally. My thought is that the parents and society today is a huge part of the problem. When I was little, no one I know acted like idiots, throwing tantrums in stores if they didn't get candy or toys. Life today is totally based on external stimuli, nothing going on in the brain. | darkshadowsseeker
| | #20 posted July 31, 2004 at 11:51pm (EDT) |
If I acted like I see some children behaving nowadays in stores...running wily-nily, nearly knocking people down, using the store as a playground...I would have gotten my ass smacked and hard! It's sad that some children aren't being taught how to behave in public. They aren't born knowing. It's their parents responsibility to teach them. I didn't allow my son to misbehave in public. If he acted up, I immeditately took action. I didn't smack him, but I let him know verbally that his behavior wasn't okay without resorting to shouting or swearing. That's another problem I see. Parents shouting and swearing at their kids in public in an attempt to control them. Kids tend to shut you out when you yell at them, so you achieve nothing! When my son goes grocery shopping with me (he's 23), it really disgusts him to see how kids are behaving in stores. He doesn't dislike children, but is none too fond of parents who allow their children to run wild in public places such as stores without trying to maintain any type of control over them. | LindaH
| | #21 posted August 1, 2004 at 2:55pm (EDT) |
People let their kids watch too much TV. They bombard their kids with external stimuli. Kids 4 and over shouldn't throw tantrums like that. I don't see much of it where I am (Anchorage, Alaska)
A lot of parents are more tolerant of whining and freaking out than a generation ago.
What do you think of mellow kids who don't make a bunch of noise in the store? | LindaH
| | #22 posted August 1, 2004 at 3:01pm (EDT) |
Young kids who are naturally likely to run around should be sitting in the cart seat. Kids too big to sit in the cart should know better. Lexie (now 7) has always been mellow. My 3 year old is high energy, so I put him in the cart. He doesn't freak out for candy, though. He's real good about that. | darkshadowsseeker
| | #23 posted August 1, 2004 at 7:36pm (EDT) |
I commend you for that. Too many parents just let kids run wild no matter their age. I've come so close to hitting small children (generally toddler age) who don't understand how dangerous it is to run blindly in front of shopping carts because their parents are letting them run around the store. One of the biggest scares I got was a couple of years ago. I was shopping at the Winco in Springfield and I just happened to look up just in time to see a little girl about 18 months-2 years of age walk through the doors going out into the parking lot. People drive like speed demons in this parking lot, yet here was this little girl wandering outside by herself while mamma was several checkstands away (the checkstands are near the front automatic sliding doors) deep in conversation with someone, totally OBLIVIOUS to what was going on. Fortunately a woman who was getting ready to exit the store saw the little girl and grabbed her before she made it to the parking lot. She could have gotten run over so easily and barring that, she could have been grabbed by a pervert. The mother didn't even thank the woman for rescuing her child! Instead she started screaming at the child, telling her she was a BAD GIRL! This to a baby! People like that don't deserve to have children! | darkshadowsseeker
| | #24 posted August 1, 2004 at 7:44pm (EDT) |
I don't mind the mellow kids, the ones who obviously have been taught how to behave appropriately. I was just thinking of one evening about a year ago. I was at Wal-Mart with my former roomie and it was kinda late...nearly 11 p.m. and we were picking up some last minutes things for a coastal trip that we were planning. There was this poor kid in the store who was about 4-5 years old and it was so obvious that he needed to be home and in bed. He was fussing about everything, but it was fairly obvious that a lot of the fussing was because he was tired. You could just tell by the tone of his voice, by his body language. Why do people do that to their children? Kids that young need a lot of sleep and you aren't doing them any favors by keeping them up all hours of the night. We have new neighbors and their daughter, who appears to be about 4 years old, can be heard out playing on their patio after ll:30 p.m. at night. That really bugs me as my son was in bed by 8 p.m. at the latest when he was that age. Sometimes I think some parents treat their children as minature adults when they should be treating them as children. Back in the days of Mozart it was quite common to treat and dress children up as minature adults, but it was as wrong them as it is now! | LindaH
| | #25 posted August 1, 2004 at 11:44pm (EDT) |
There are kids in my neighborhood who are outside at 11:00pm, including a 3 year old. | darkshadowsseeker
| | #26 posted August 2, 2004 at 1:08am (EDT) |
That's unfortunate. These little ones need lots of sleep in order to stay healthy. I realize some parents allow their children to stay up until all hours during school breaks, but this does cause a problem when school starts up again and the children's bodies have to relearn sleep patterns. That's not healthy for the child in the least. | LindaH
| | #27 posted August 2, 2004 at 1:32am (EDT) |
It makes me wonder if the parents stay up that late too, and do they work in the morning? I hate to think parents are going to bed and letting their kids stay outside and play. | darkshadowsseeker
| | #28 posted August 2, 2004 at 8:09am (EDT) |
In the case of my neighbor, I don't know what the situation with the parents is as of yet, but I do know of parents who go to bed and let their kids stay up until all hours and even going outside a playing in a playground in the middle of the night. We had problems with this at an apartment complex where I use to live. Needless to say we went to the management and complained because many of us had to get up early to get ready for work and these kids where running around yelling, playing games, etc. at 3 a.m.! Of course they were too young to understand that they were bothering other people that badly, the oldest wasn't much more than 8 and his brother and sister were 5 and 7 years of age. They had no business being in the apartment complex playground at that time. Sadly, the parents had to be threatened with eviction before they kept their children under control. Their attitude was that we were the problem, not their childrens behavior. They didn't see any problem with a child playing where ever he wanted whenever he wanted, no matter the time of day or night. As you can see, the parents were the problem here, not the children. You can't expect them to behave in a way that they weren't taught. To me, it was the parents that needed some lessons. |
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