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furballproudlyBPASD 
| #1 posted February 1, 2010 at 11:22pm (EDT)
edited February 3, 2010 at 12:03am (EDT) |
I'm making this so if there are actually people besides me (and lisa from Girl Interrupted) who are amazing enough in the way of liking how we mentally are who also like how they are mentally, then it's a good place to realize if you want to or to express the good things and liking mental illness, disorders, or conditions.
I love what I mentally have, so it's maddening to hear people having to WANT to be fully stable or something. At least I'm finally lucky enough to have a part of me back: Abilify made me too stable to where I unfortunately couldn't even enjoy BP ups or downs. I would just start to get nice and sad only it won't go any further. EEWWW!
Now on Lithium I can enjoy my brain set-up FINALLY. Geodon was the worst since it even had to ruin excitement, autistic rocking and stims like soft FURRRRRRRRR! (I love fur), I didn't even talk about fur unfortunately. I wanted to hear DVDs way more instead of hear CDs. That's different possibly. It's a long story of the other side-affects like being too weak only for too long so I couldn't rock in the rocking chair which I autistically could rulingly do every day all day hearing songs and being in my brain.
The soft, furry point though is that too many people have to not even like the amazing reputation/sound/idea of mental illness. We aren't in the 60s either. There is a Mad Pride day on July 14, but I hope it's in this country. The video on Youtube was a Canadian one. Unfortunately THEY are even against labels!
That's another thing. People have to think it's so amazing to go against labels when in my theory it's actually SOCIETY's reaction relating to the whole idea of the label, but NOT the label its4elf. It's sad, but unfortunately it's mad-making meaning bad. If people were more positive about being different and if society ruled enough to actually like it as long as nothing's a danger or something then see how it's not the labels?
It's a really hard hairy and not so soft pet peve of mine that doesn't even meow and purr. It doesn't even make those other cat growls that I love. It hisses angrilly.
...the whole idea of "positive" people that are NEGATIVE against what they call negative... Maybe I'm too positive and/or the whole scued thinking thing.
I still want to know more about scued thinking.
...but this is for people who might begin to have different thoughts of acceptance where society would think it's so bad to be lucky enough to be able to have a mental illness or developmental disorder or some neurologically different condition. |
llamamama 
| | #2 posted February 2, 2010 at 12:08am (EDT) |
What the crap?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!  |
LindaH   
| | #3 posted February 2, 2010 at 12:37am (EDT) |
A lot of really nice, and otherwise tolerant and accepting people will suddenly become intolerant when they are presented with behavior (however harmless) that is "odd" or unusual to them. Deep down, it is rooted in fear. Reacting negatively to something because it is presumed to be a bad thing (though there's nothing bad about it) is skewed thinking. |
EyesOfCharisma
| | #4 posted February 2, 2010 at 7:54am (EDT) |
hmmm my comment is missing. nice. |
FordGuy 
| | #5 posted February 2, 2010 at 8:03am (EDT) |
People Are People by Depeche Mode
People are people
So why should it be
You and I should get
Along so awfully
People are people
So why should it be
You and I should get
Along so awfully
So we're different colours
And we're different creeds
And different people have different needs
It's obvious you hate me
Though I've done nothing wrong
I've never ever met you so what could I have done
I can't understand
What makes a man
Hate another man
Help me understand
People are people...
Help me understand
Help me understand
Now you're punching
And you're kicking
And you're shouting at me
I'm relying on your common decency
So far it hasn't surfaced
But I'm sure it exists
It just takes a while to travel
From your head to your fists
I can't understand
What makes a man
Hate another man
Help me understand |
llamamama
| | #6 posted February 2, 2010 at 10:04am (EDT) |
LindaH wrote:
> A lot of really nice, and otherwise tolerant and accepting people
> will suddenly become intolerant when they are presented with behavior
> (however harmless) that is "odd" or unusual to them. Deep down, it
> is rooted in fear. Reacting negatively to something because it is
> presumed to be a bad thing (though there's nothing bad about it)
> is skewed thinking.
It's all about survival. |
LindaH
| | #7 posted February 2, 2010 at 11:18am (EDT) |
Not always.
I can totally understand people taking measures to protect their own self. That doesn't mean that any given weirdo is a threat, though, the way some people fear. No reason to react outwardly negatively though, in any case. Getting away from them is a nicer alternative. |
llamamama
| | #8 posted February 2, 2010 at 12:44pm (EDT) |
No, regardless of what people may think..We definitely still have our primitive reactions to things.
If someone acts in a weird way..we're going to be afriad. It's a natural reaction. We have absolutely no way to tell of the person's actual intentions. You can't walk up to them and ask them if they're crazy...it doesn't work like that. |
LindaH
| | #9 posted February 2, 2010 at 1:08pm (EDT) |
Much of the time, there's no need to fear it, though. If they are acting threatening, sure. But not if they are babbling incoherently and dancing around in a really goofy way.
I think it is plain silly to be afraid of some of the things I have seen people be afraid of. I don't have that fear. It's not a 'primitive' reaction to fear someone acting weird, but not threatening. I think that is learned. Most of the time there's a way to tell someone's state of mind (harmless vs intent on causing harm/violence). |
cerealkiller 
| | #10 posted February 2, 2010 at 1:13pm (EDT) |
llamamama wrote:
> LindaH wrote:
>> A lot of really nice, and otherwise tolerant
> and accepting people
>> will suddenly become intolerant when they are
> presented with behavior
>> (however harmless) that is "odd" or unusual
> to them. Deep down, it
>> is rooted in fear. Reacting negatively to something
> because it is
>> presumed to be a bad thing (though there's
> nothing bad about it)
>> is skewed thinking.
>
>
> It's all about survival.
It's all about how society really works. Anyone not like you tends to be "bad".. be it race, religion, sexual preference, weight, what car you drive, you name it. If there's even a slight chance you're a pedophile? Everyone wants you dead. Mental problems? Not much tolerance for that either. Diversity? That's really only tolerance of other people and it generally only occurs in big cities where a lot of people are thrown together.
Whoever this person is - he/she has a lot more going on than being bi-polar. It is very hard to follow exactly what the hell is being talked about. He/she doesn't want to be totally sane/straight? That's ridiculous. Either you do or you don't. Sounds like this person enjoys being manic and doesn't like the meds keeping the highs and lows balanced.
I've got way more disorders and things going on than this person but very little of it ever shows publicly. And it doesn't affect my ability to reason and write something clearly understandable.
Furrball person - you need a second opinion. Shrinks generally like to zone in on a quick diagnosis based on a limited amount of discussion with the patient. Then they just play trial and error with meds. |
llamamama
| | #11 posted February 2, 2010 at 4:20pm (EDT) |
LindaH wrote:
> Much of the time, there's no need to fear it, though. If they are
> acting threatening, sure. But not if they are babbling incoherently
> and dancing around in a really goofy way.
>
> I think it is plain silly to be afraid of some of the things I have
> seen people be afraid of. I don't have that fear. It's not a 'primitive'
> reaction to fear someone acting weird, but not threatening. I think
> that is learned. Most of the time there's a way to tell someone's
> state of mind (harmless vs intent on causing harm/violence).
It doesn't matter if there's a reason to fear it or not. As CK said..it's feared because it's different..but I do think it's kind of psychological..We don't necessarily just decide to be afraid.
And we can't always tell if someone is harmless or not. Someone could be sitting there quietly..and you might think that's strange..but not be worried..and then he turns out to be some crazy killer guy and he was just looking for his next victim. |
LindaH
| | #12 posted February 2, 2010 at 4:54pm (EDT) |
Exactly. But if he is sitting there quietly, there's no reason to be afraid, or to think he is going to hurt someone. No need to get away from him or call the men in white coats.
The same thing goes if you see him rambling silly nonsense, dancing around, doing kooky strange things. If he does not appear hostile or make threats, he is no more "scary" than the guy sitting quietly.
Most crazy people don't hurt others. |
cerealkiller
| | #13 posted February 2, 2010 at 5:06pm (EDT) |
I disagree.
You really never know what a crazy person is gonna do who is acting strange. And, they may not really be crazy but high on drugs. Then you really would be at risk.
It's best to steer clear of anyone who doesn't appear 'normal'. Not because you are prejudiced but solely for your personal safety.
Actually it's better to avoid all strange humans. Anyone out there could kill you at any time. In the mall, church, the post office for sure, on the road, etc. The world has become a place where you have to think of yourself first. |
LindaH
| | #14 posted February 2, 2010 at 5:16pm (EDT) |
Maybe you just need to expose yourself to more strange, but harmless people. After a while, you can tell them apart from the scary ones. |
llamamama
| | #15 posted February 2, 2010 at 5:34pm (EDT) |
Not being able to tell them apart could be dangerous. |
cerealkiller
| | #16 posted February 2, 2010 at 5:37pm (EDT) |
LindaH wrote:
> Maybe you just need to expose yourself to more
> strange, but harmless people. After a while, you
> can tell them apart from the scary ones.
No. There is no fool-proof way to know who is harmless and who would slit your throat in an instant.
Now, looky here. If you were walking down a dark street at night and a man wearing a black hoody is approaching you. Which would you most likely be afraid of? A white guy, black guy or a mexican?
I bet most would say black or mexican. But, if you were walking towards a serial killer eyeing you as his next victim it would most likely be a white guy since serial killers are predominantly white males. So, who do you REALLY need to be afraid of at the bus stop - Me, or th black guy sitting there rambling incoherent phrases and acting strange? |
llamamama
| | #17 posted February 2, 2010 at 5:47pm (EDT) |
Exactly.
There are a lot of creepy people out there..the world is much less safe than it was in the past. |
cerealkiller
| #18 posted February 2, 2010 at 5:51pm (EDT)
edited February 2, 2010 at 5:53pm (EDT) |
Here yee go - this is the next major town over from me and where I go to Walmart, etc. This just happened to a guy minding his own business driving along. You never know..............
http://www.modbee.com/local/story/1032652.html |
llamamama
| | #19 posted February 2, 2010 at 5:53pm (EDT) |
Really, it's always the quiet ones.
Think about it..Whenever something bad goes down..it's almost always some quiet person. And when people are interviewed..it's always something like, "S/he was really quiet and kept to themself. S/he seemed nice enough when I talked to them in passing. |
cerealkiller
| | #20 posted February 2, 2010 at 6:06pm (EDT) |
llamamama wrote:
> Really, it's always the quiet ones.
>
> Think about it..Whenever something bad goes down..it's
> almost always some quiet person. And when people
> are interviewed..it's always something like, "S/he
> was really quiet and kept to themself. S/he seemed
> nice enough when I talked to them in passing.
Eggzactly. But I guess that kinda proves Linda's point that those acting goofy aren't likely dangerous. Still better to stay the hell away from them............. |
llamamama
| | #21 posted February 2, 2010 at 6:12pm (EDT) |
They might be unintentionally dangerous. |
cerealkiller
| | #22 posted February 2, 2010 at 6:16pm (EDT) |
llamamama wrote:
> They might be unintentionally dangerous.
Well, yeah, that's what I meant. They could fudge you up without any purposeful intention to do so.
I also avoid like hell running across homeless people when I'm going into stores. They are usually very odd and strange and I hate them asking for money. One fudgeer asked me the other day if I had a spare $5 bucks. Lotta nerve I'd say. It used to be "Can you spare any change?". |
LindaH
| | #23 posted February 2, 2010 at 6:41pm (EDT) |
What I am trying to say is pretty much what you are saying. You just never know, from one person to the next. I just happen to thing 'profiling' silly goofy 'crazy' looking people as potentially dangerous makes as much sense as profiling the guy sitting there doing nothing.
Just as with sane people, it's better and more accurate to profile based on body language and tone of voice. The guy cracking silly jokes (with no violent content) to himself isn't likely to blow someone's head off. |
LindaH
| | #24 posted February 2, 2010 at 6:42pm (EDT) |
How would they be unintentionally dangerous? |
cerealkiller
| | #25 posted February 2, 2010 at 6:48pm (EDT) |
They could flail their arms around whacking you in the head, stumble and knock you into the street under an on-coming bus, puke on your new white shirt. You know, unintentional crap like that............... |
llamamama
| | #26 posted February 2, 2010 at 7:19pm (EDT) |
Exaaaactly. |
LindaH
| | #27 posted February 2, 2010 at 7:51pm (EDT) |
Oh... If they are really out of control and are too out of it to notice people, yes. |
Iseult 
| | #28 posted February 2, 2010 at 8:29pm (EDT) |
cerealkiller wrote:
> I also avoid like hell running across homeless
> people when I'm going into stores. They are usually
> very odd and strange and I hate them asking for
> money. One fudgeer asked me the other day if I
> had a spare $5 bucks. Lotta nerve I'd say. It
> used to be "Can you spare any change?".
Beggers are getting more sophisticated. I was waiting for bus the other day and this guy, whom I thought was a nice old man, all of a sudden asked me if I had spare change. I usually pick them out when I see them, but this one I didn't. |
southernyankee
| #29 posted February 3, 2010 at 12:50am (EDT)
edited February 3, 2010 at 12:51am (EDT) |
llamamama wrote:
> Really, it's always the quiet ones.
>
> Think about it..Whenever something bad goes down..it's almost always
> some quiet person. And when people are interviewed..it's always something
> like, "S/he was really quiet and kept to themself. S/he seemed nice
> enough when I talked to them in passing.
But then when you least expect it, a loud one will get you. |
southernyankee
| | #30 posted February 3, 2010 at 12:53am (EDT) |
cerealkiller wrote:
> It's best to steer clear of anyone who doesn't appear 'normal'. Not
> because you are prejudiced but solely for your personal safety.
>
> Actually it's better to avoid all strange humans. Anyone out there
> could kill you at any time. In the mall, church, the post office
> for sure, on the road, etc. The world has become a place where you
> have to think of yourself first.
I think I'd rather take my chances with the "crazies" than not ever do anything with my life. If they get me, then they get me. |
llamamama
| | #31 posted February 3, 2010 at 9:27am (EDT) |
southernyankee wrote:
> llamamama wrote:
>> Really, it's always the quiet ones.
>>
>> Think about it..Whenever something bad goes down..it's almost always
>> some quiet person. And when people are interviewed..it's always
> something
>> like, "S/he was really quiet and kept to themself. S/he seemed
> nice
>> enough when I talked to them in passing.
>
> But then when you least expect it, a loud one will get you.
Very true hahaha |
jen
| #32 posted February 3, 2010 at 10:04am (EDT)
edited February 3, 2010 at 10:07am (EDT) |
If you can let your mental illness fly free and still hold down a job that fully supports your lifestyle AND maintain positive relationships, then rock on.
Most people IME take stability drugs so they can hang on to their job, friends, etc. and not out of shame or conformism |
LindaH
| | #33 posted February 3, 2010 at 10:10am (EDT) |
That's usually the defining characteristic of the severity of a mental illness. If it interferes with occupational and social functioning, then it is a problem. If it is merely annoying to petty people, then it isn't a problem.  |
FordGuy
| | #34 posted February 3, 2010 at 10:24am (EDT) |
Is beer considered a stability drug? |
LindaH
| #35 posted February 3, 2010 at 10:29am (EDT)
edited February 3, 2010 at 10:29am (EDT) |
possibly, for some people.
I noticed if I drink just a little bit of alcohol, I get more focused and motivated, and feel like that's how motivated and focused I should be feeling all the time. I wonder how I can get that way without having to drink beer all day |
llamamama
| | #36 posted February 3, 2010 at 10:33am (EDT) |
That's what beer does with everyone. You drink a little bit that's what happens..If you drink more...then you think you're more focused. |
LindaH
| | #37 posted February 3, 2010 at 10:35am (EDT) |
No, If I drink more, I get drunk.
If I drink a little bit, not enough to get drunk, then I get more motivated and focused. I get more done. |
Melf
| | #38 posted February 3, 2010 at 11:56am (EDT) |
That doesn't happen with me. I'm very self-aware when I do things like this (that is, drinking lots of caffeine, any alcohol, etc), so I'm constantly questioning myself if I'm drunk or not, which gets me into a bizarre level of thinking where I'm constantly second guessing every one of my actions and assessing them for potential drunkenness, or having given myself a placebo.
I think that's why I'm a friendly drunk; because I'm too busy thinking that I don't want to make a prat out of myself not to be. I just have really good conversations (and I remember everything because I'm so conscious) and generally have a good time. Drinking alone gives me good writing material; I've never drank alone past that 'Oooh, well this is nice, isn't it?' feeling.
At the same time, though (and I know I'm going on with myself, here), I drink like once every two months. So it's always an experience of some sort, not a 'typical night out'. Hmm. |
llamamama
| | #39 posted February 3, 2010 at 12:30pm (EDT) |
I should say a lot of people are like that.
Hence people who think it's okay to drive while drunk. |
Melf
| | #40 posted February 3, 2010 at 2:57pm (EDT) |
Hurrah for my non driving  |
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