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cerealkiller Gold Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
#1 posted November 5, 2009 at 5:11pm (EST)  


California is now fudging everyone in the ass to attempt to gain back money for the state's mishandling and spending. Hell, it was kept pretty quiet and I wouldn't even have known about it if it weren't on Bill O'Reilly last night. Thanks Foxnews. Well, I would have found out about it Friday in my paycheck.
This lovely state has now decided to take interest-free "payday" loans from every taxpayer in Cali. As of now they are requiring an additional 10% of what employers normally would withhold from paychecks. They say it isn't a tax increase and you'd get it back "later". They left this policy with an indefinite time period so this could go on forever. Do they think we're stupid? It's gonna cost me $50 a month in extra money taken out. Fudge, I want 1000% interest on that money like the payday loan places.
Other lovely things California has done lately without major fanfare or anyone having a choice:

o the sales tax has gone up 1%

o the tax exemption amount allowed per dependent has been cut by 2/3!

o vehicle registration fees are going to escalate


I don't understand why state and federal governments don't understand that the answer to all their spending is NOT fudging over J.Q. Public by jacking up taxes!

FordGuy Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
#2 posted November 5, 2009 at 6:32pm (EST)  

It could be worse. You could live in Michigan.
Iseult Quadruple Gold Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
#3 posted November 5, 2009 at 6:34pm (EST)  

And they did without even consulting the taxpayers?

I would've thought something like this would've required a state wide referendum.
cerealkiller Gold Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
#4 posted November 5, 2009 at 6:49pm (EST)  

Iseult wrote:
> And they did without even consulting the taxpayers?
>
>
> I would've thought something like this would've
> required a state wide referendum.

This is called government take-over. Thievery, stealing. Obama is trying to do it on a national scale. All this crap keeps up there will be a revolt. WE THE PEOPLE will only take so much..................
cerealkiller Gold Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
#5 posted November 5, 2009 at 6:50pm (EST)  

FordGuy wrote:
> It could be worse. You could live in Michigan.

What is happening there?
Enheduanna Survey Central Subscriber
#6 posted November 5, 2009 at 7:26pm (EST)
edited November 5, 2009 at 7:27pm (EST)  

cerealkiller wrote:
> California is now fudging everyone in the ass to attempt to gain back
> money for the state's mishandling and spending. Hell, it was kept
> pretty quiet and I wouldn't even have known about it if it weren't
> on Bill O'Reilly last night. Thanks Foxnews. Well, I would have
> found out about it Friday in my paycheck.
> This lovely state has now decided to take interest-free "payday" loans
> from every taxpayer in Cali. As of now they are requiring an additional
> 10% of what employers normally would withhold from paychecks. They
> say it isn't a tax increase and you'd get it back "later". They left
> this policy with an indefinite time period so this could go on forever.
> Do they think we're stupid? It's gonna cost me $50 a month in extra
> money taken out. Fudge, I want 1000% interest on that money like the
> payday loan places.
> Other lovely things California has done lately without major fanfare
> or anyone having a choice:
>
> o the sales tax has gone up 1%
>
> o the tax exemption amount allowed per dependent has been cut by
> 2/3!
>
> o vehicle registration fees are going to escalate
>
>
> I don't understand why state and federal governments don't understand
> that the answer to all their spending is NOT fudging over J.Q. Public
> by jacking up taxes!
>
>

I remember voting on the sales tax and vehicle registration fee increases. They were how some of last year's propositions were going to be funded. I'm not sure about the dependent exemption, though, and the payday loan sounds pretty sneaky and uncool! I guess it's a surreptitious way of raising income taxes without actually having to increase income taxes. I can't say I'm surprised, given how truly fudgeed the state budget is.
llamamama Bronze Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
#7 posted November 5, 2009 at 8:47pm (EST)  

cerealkiller wrote:
> FordGuy wrote:
>> It could be worse. You could live in Michigan.
>
> What is happening there?


Are you kidding me? Michigan is like suffering horribly from the economy. And if I understand it's been that way for awhile.

But anyone can definitely correct me if they're wrong.
labjog Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
#8 posted November 5, 2009 at 8:59pm (EST)  

cerealkiller wrote:
> FordGuy wrote:
>> It could be worse. You could live in Michigan.
>
> What is happening there?

Balancing the budget, the first thing to go school funding, state police services, MSU extension ................................
cerealkiller Gold Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
#9 posted November 6, 2009 at 3:30pm (EST)  

llamamama wrote:
> cerealkiller wrote:
>> FordGuy wrote:
> |>> It could be worse. You could live in Michigan.
>>
>> What is happening there?
>
>
> Are you kidding me? Michigan is like suffering
> horribly from the economy. And if I understand
> it's been that way for awhile.
>
> But anyone can definitely correct me if they're
> wrong.

I wasn't referring to who is the worst off in the economy. I am talking about gangster type theft without anyone having a choice from state taxpayers. Also not referring to cuts in services. Solely what California is doing to screw the public directly to try to cover their mistakes.
Enheduanna Survey Central Subscriber
#10 posted November 6, 2009 at 7:22pm (EST)  

I don't think it's trying to cover mistakes, unless you think the way property taxes work here are a mistake (which I doubt you do). They have a huge budget shortfall because too much of the budget depends on taxes that depend on company revenues. When there's a recession, there's a huge budget shortfall because, in general, businesses are making less and therefore paying less in taxes. Not to excuse all of the ridiculousness that goes on in the state legislature where the budget process is concerned, but to be fair, they're working with a pretty stupid system. Which is why it's time to change the state's constitution.
ScubaScott Survey Qualifier
#11 posted November 6, 2009 at 9:50pm (EST)  

cerealkiller wrote:
> California is now fudging everyone in the ass |>
>


Sounds like my kind of place.
ScubaScott Survey Qualifier
#12 posted November 6, 2009 at 9:51pm (EST)  

FordGuy wrote:
> It could be worse. You could live in Michigan.


Amen


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