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highwaypatrolj
| | #1 posted June 29, 2008 at 5:07pm (EDT) |
is there any decent politicians to vote for 2008? come on a black muslim, a woman and a rich republican racist redneck let's go to iran and start a another war we cant pay for, who is best canidate you guys will vote for and why? im curious | southernyankee 
| | #2 posted June 29, 2008 at 5:28pm (EDT) |
Well, Obama isn't really a Muslim (if you want proof, kicking out the two women in headscarves out of his staged convention should be enough), I don't see where you got racist out from McCain and Hilliary isn't even in the race. Though they all have / had their share of flaws.
If it makes you feel any better, you're not picking between Bush and Kerry, or worse, Bush and Gore. | Melf  
| | #3 posted June 29, 2008 at 6:15pm (EDT) |
'[...]come on a black muslim, a woman and a rich republican racist redneck [...]'
twinkie. | jettles
| | #4 posted June 29, 2008 at 6:16pm (EDT) |
highwaypatrolj wrote:
> is there any decent politicians to vote for 2008? come on a black
> muslim, a woman and a rich republican racist redneck let's go to iran
> and start a another war we cant pay for, who is best canidate you
> guys will vote for and why? im curious
try reading alittle and maybe you will actually know what and who you are talking about. | llamamama 
| | #5 posted June 29, 2008 at 7:57pm (EDT) |
Aren't most politicians rich?
But..uh..don't vote come November. Please. | Frostbrand 
| | #6 posted June 30, 2008 at 12:32am (EDT) |
highwaypatrolj wrote:
> is there any decent politicians to vote for 2008?
> come on a black muslim, a woman and a rich republican
> racist redneck let's go to iran and start a another
> war we cant pay for, who is best canidate you
> guys will vote for and why? im curious
Obama is a Christian, and why does his being Black matter? Also, Hillary has already dropped out. | Matty 
| #7 posted June 30, 2008 at 3:25pm (EDT)
edited June 30, 2008 at 3:26pm (EDT) |
southernyankee wrote:
> Well, Obama isn't really a Muslim (if you want proof, kicking out
> the two women in headscarves out of his staged convention should be
> enough), I don't see where you got racist out from McCain and Hilliary
> isn't even in the race. Though they all have / had their share of
> flaws.
>
> If it makes you feel any better, you're not picking between Bush and
> Kerry, or worse, Bush and Gore.
O'bama also spent many years in either Maylasia or Indonesia while growing up; I'm not sure I remember which. Both of these nations are both Muslim and anti-American. Plus, a terrorist could easily stage an incident to make himself appear better. I feel all the angst O'Bama experienced with his pastor was staged to demonstrate that O'Bama really was Christian.
Frankly, the only thing stopping me from supporting O'Bama is my inability to get more infomation about his background. At this point I just can't vote for someone named Baraq Hussein O'Bama; I'm, not saying that I categorically believe he is a sleeper terrorist by any strecth of the imagination. What I am saying is that there are significan questions about O'Bama's background, and that the information about those questions is not being made public.
McCain: flaming jackass, enough said. | jettles
| | #8 posted June 30, 2008 at 4:12pm (EDT) |
Baraq Hussein O'Bama; I'm, not saying
> that I categorically believe he is a sleeper terrorist by any strecth
> of the imagination. What I am saying is that there are significan
> questions about O'Bama's background, and that the information about
> those questions is not being made public.
>
> McCain: flaming jackass, enough said.
the information is out there, you just choose not to believe what is out there as you don't want to believe that you aren't spelling his name correctly!! | Melf
| #9 posted June 30, 2008 at 5:14pm (EDT)
edited June 30, 2008 at 5:14pm (EDT) |
Yeah, who the fudge's O'Bama? | LindaH 
| | #10 posted June 30, 2008 at 5:26pm (EDT) |
Melf wrote:
> Yeah, who the fudge's O'Bama?
Some Irish dude. | llamamama
| | #11 posted June 30, 2008 at 5:30pm (EDT) |
This upsets me alot..
If you can't spell Obama..AAAGH!!!!
So, I suppose he won't be voting either..golly gee..shocker!
If there was someone named O'Bama, I would totally vote for him. That's a true ancient Irish...ancestry..person.. | Irene007
| | #12 posted June 30, 2008 at 5:37pm (EDT) |
 | llamamama
| | #13 posted June 30, 2008 at 5:54pm (EDT) |
Just for the record, I love how as Americans we love to complain about the state of the government..but..we don't vote.
Now, don't get me wrong, lots of people vote, but there is also probably a majority of people that can vote, that don't.
So, ya know what, if you don't vote, shut up. You have absolutely no right to complain about the state of the government.
(Note: That is of course only referring to those who are 18 or older) | LindaH
| | #14 posted June 30, 2008 at 6:04pm (EDT) |
llamamama wrote:
> Just for the record, I love how as Americans we
> love to complain about the state of the government..but..we
> don't vote.
> Now, don't get me wrong, lots of people vote,
> but there is also probably a majority of people
> that can vote, that don't.
> So, ya know what, if you don't vote, shut up.
> You have absolutely no right to complain about
> the state of the government.
> (Note: That is of course only referring to those
> who are 18 or older)
I always thought a voter registration card would make a good 18th birthday card stuffer | llamamama
| | #15 posted June 30, 2008 at 6:14pm (EDT) |
I would totally love such a thing.
I'm going to register to vote sometime in the near future so that I can vote in November. I'm pretty excited about this. | Melf
| | #16 posted June 30, 2008 at 6:20pm (EDT) |
It's not exactly about the election and that, but it's definitely political, and very important...
http://www.google.com/help/netneutrality_letter.ht...
Seriously, just read it. | llamamama
| | #17 posted June 30, 2008 at 6:34pm (EDT) |
That's really bad. | Melf
| | #18 posted June 30, 2008 at 6:37pm (EDT) |
 Yup. | llamamama
| | #19 posted June 30, 2008 at 8:23pm (EDT) |
I didn't think they could do that. | Psychologo
| | #20 posted July 1, 2008 at 12:01am (EDT) |
Even if what u said was true, whitch is not, why should it matter that the person is black or a woman or evern a muslime | romkey
| | #21 posted July 1, 2008 at 12:04am (EDT) |
Psychologo wrote:
> Even if what u said was true, whitch is not,
> why should it matter that the person is black
> or a woman or evern a muslime
Thank you!
| they 
| | #22 posted July 1, 2008 at 12:11am (EDT) |
highwaypatrol is a troll.
You are a racist and a sexist.
Jeremy. | Frostbrand
| | #23 posted July 1, 2008 at 1:00am (EDT) |
Matty wrote:
> southernyankee wrote:
>> Well, Obama isn't really a Muslim (if you want
> proof, kicking out
>> the two women in headscarves out of his staged
> convention should be
>> enough), I don't see where you got racist out
> from McCain and Hilliary
>> isn't even in the race. Though they all have
> / had their share of
>> flaws.
>>
>> If it makes you feel any better, you're not
> picking between Bush and
>> Kerry, or worse, Bush and Gore.
>
> O'bama also spent many years in either Maylasia
> or Indonesia while growing up; I'm not sure I
> remember which. Both of these nations are both
> Muslim and anti-American. Plus, a terrorist could
> easily stage an incident to make himself appear
> better. I feel all the angst O'Bama experienced
> with his pastor was staged to demonstrate that
> O'Bama really was Christian.
>
Actually Indonesia is an ally of ours. And what evidence do you have to support this whole "staged" thing? Feelings aren't good enough. You can "feel" that global warming is being caused by Zeus pushing us towards the son because no one beleives in him anymore after all.
> Frankly, the only thing stopping me from supporting
> O'Bama is my inability to get more infomation
> about his background.
Two books, voting records from the Illinois and U.S. Senate, countless in-depth articles and interviews... By inability you mean unwillingness.
> At this point I just can't
> vote for someone named Baraq Hussein O'Bama;
Nor can you spell his name right apaprently. Also, "Hussein" is an Arabic word that means "Handsome One." I see no reason why one docuehbag who's been dead for several years now (Saddam) should be allowed to ruin that anme for everyone. Of coruse, Americans are stupid about that kind of thing. There's a lawyer here in Denver named Mark Fuhrman. No relation to the cop whose private racism blew the O.J. case, but his life was made quite miserable during the years that trial was going on, just cause of the name.
> I'm, not saying that I categorically believe he
> is a sleeper terrorist by any strecth of the imagination.
> What I am saying is that there are significan
> questions about O'Bama's background, and that
> the information about those questions is not being
> made public.
>
Except they are, to anyone who wants to find them, who doesn't let e-mail smear camapigns do their thinking for them. | LindaH
| | #24 posted July 1, 2008 at 1:12am (EDT) |
Frostbrand wrote:
>
> Nor can you spell his name right apaprently. Also,
> "Hussein" is an Arabic word that means "Handsome
> One." I see no reason why one docuehbag who's
> been dead for several years now (Saddam) should
> be allowed to ruin that anme for everyone. Of
> coruse, Americans are stupid about that kind of
> thing. There's a lawyer here in Denver named Mark
> Fuhrman. No relation to the cop whose private
> racism blew the O.J. case, but his life was made
> quite miserable during the years that trial was
> going on, just cause of the name.
Americans are stupid about things like that, in general. Creating associations based on totally irrelevant things seems to be an American past-time. | jettles
| | #25 posted July 1, 2008 at 8:59am (EDT) |
interesting: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic... | they
| | #26 posted July 1, 2008 at 9:34am (EDT) |
Matty wrote:
> I
> feel all the angst O'Bama
> experienced with his pastor
> was staged to demonstrate
> that O'Bama really was Christian.
I agree. I don't think it means he's a terrorist though. I think it means he's a liar just like all the others. | Frostbrand
| | #27 posted July 1, 2008 at 1:49pm (EDT) |
they wrote:
> Matty wrote:
>
>> I
>> feel all the angst O'Bama
>> experienced with his pastor
>> was staged to demonstrate
>> that O'Bama really was Christian.
>
>
> I agree. I don't think it means he's a terrorist
> though. I think it means he's a liar just like
> all the others.
How was it staged exactly? I mean really, for that to be true, it would require a man to ruin a 20+ year reputation, a Presidential candidate risking seemign "too radical" for independent voters, and all sorts of other things that no smart politician would want to happen during a campaign, especially one as close and as heated as the Democratic primary race was. | Irene007
| | #28 posted July 1, 2008 at 3:09pm (EDT) |
Melf wrote:
> It's not exactly about the election and that, but it's definitely
> political, and very important...
> http://www.google.com/help/netneutrality_letter.ht...
>
> Seriously, just read it.
I knew this was going to happen but not that soon... Welcome to the land of the free. | verouge
| | #29 posted July 1, 2008 at 5:02pm (EDT) |
I like this thread.. but I won't comment.. hehehe | Melf
| | #30 posted July 1, 2008 at 5:44pm (EDT) |
Irene007 wrote:
> Melf wrote:
>> It's not exactly about the election and that, but it's definitely
>> political, and very important...
>> http://www.google.com/help/netneutrality_letter.ht...
>>
>> Seriously, just read it.
>
> I knew this was going to happen but not that soon... Welcome to the land of the free.
and @ llamamama: It's horrible. I'm really glad google are getting involved - I would have no idea about this if it wasn't for them. | llamamama
| | #31 posted July 1, 2008 at 7:04pm (EDT) |
Yeah, it's a good thing, maybe more people will get involved than would have.. | mrmarm
| | #32 posted July 1, 2008 at 8:12pm (EDT) |
highwaypatrolj wrote:
> is there any decent politicians to vote for 2008? come on a black
> muslim, a woman and a rich republican racist redneck let's go to iran
> and start a another war we cant pay for, who is best canidate you
> guys will vote for and why? im curious
WOW, who would you say are good canidates then? | Matty
| | #33 posted July 1, 2008 at 8:20pm (EDT) |
I thought you were filtering me, so what's with the response? Perhaps we can have a real discourse now; let's see.
Frostbrand wrote:
> Actually Indonesia is an ally of ours.
Technically, politically...sure. But then again, what country isn't? How about this? I'lll buy your ticket, and you walk around Jakarta with an "I love America" T-shirt for a few days. Give me your address; I'll send you everything you need.
>And what evidence do you have
> to support this whole "staged" thing? Feelings aren't good enough.
> You can "feel" that global warming is being caused by Zeus pushing
> us towards the son because no one beleives in him anymore after all.
The whole thing felt like a staged event to me; that's all I need. One does not need a doctoral thesis worth of empirical evidence to form an opinion.
>> Frankly, the only thing stopping me from supporting
>> O'Bama is my inability to get more infomation
>> about his background.
>
> Two books, voting records from the Illinois and U.S. Senate, countless
> in-depth articles and interviews... By inability you mean unwillingness.
You forgot the background check that allowed him to be a Senator, his IRS records, his DMV history, his Secret Service dossier, and a comprehensive periodical search that anyone can do. The sources you highlighted don't even scratch the surface. So what? The point is that none of this is real information. I want to hear from the people he befriended in Indonesia (or Malaysia) and Hawaii and other such information that publicity devices and government reports can't tell you.
>> At this point I just can't
>> vote for someone named Baraq Hussein O'Bama;
>
> Nor can you spell his name right apaprently.
Was this really necessary? Don't you ever make spelling errors? Haven't you grown beyond this 17-year-old, bewb for tat retorting. Don't you want to be a writer and a politician? Enough already, let the children on this site do that.
>Also, "Hussein" is an
> Arabic word that means "Handsome One." I see no reason why one docuehbag
> who's been dead for several years now (Saddam) should be allowed to
> ruin that anme for everyone.
Whatever, the point wasn't the actual name so much as it represents a Muslim man of spurious origin. And before you call me a racist or whatever personal attack you feel coming...ask yourself if it's good idea to investigate little old Polish ladies from Brooklyn with the same avarice as young Muslim, male immigrants. Further, do bear in mind that I consider Barack Obama to be the only viable candidate and previously said so. My questions about Obama are the same questions that over 30% of current McCain supporters have.
Finally, Brian, if you really want to have an intelligent discourse, I would be more than happy to do so. But if you are going to continue with silly personal attacks or other childish jibs, you'll just be another troll to me.
| Frostbrand
| | #34 posted July 1, 2008 at 9:12pm (EDT) |
Matty wrote:
> I thought you were filtering me, so what's with
> the response? Perhaps we can have a real discourse
> now; let's see.
>
> Frostbrand wrote:
>> Actually Indonesia is an ally of ours.
>
> Technically, politically...sure. But then again,
> what country isn't? How about this? I'lll buy
> your ticket, and you walk around Jakarta with
> an "I love America" T-shirt for a few days. Give
> me your address; I'll send you everything you
> need.
>
> |>And what evidence do you have
>> to support this whole "staged" thing? Feelings
> aren't good enough.
>> You can "feel" that global warming is being
> caused by Zeus pushing
>> us towards the son because no one beleives
> in him anymore after all.
>
> The whole thing felt like a staged event to me;
> that's all I need.
So facts be damned then? Or even logic for that matter? How exactly would ties to an allegedly radical preacher (who preached for over 20 years yet gets judged by one 2 minute clip) help Obama win?
> One does not need a doctoral
> thesis worth of empirical evidence to form an
> opinion.
>
True, people are entitled to their own opinions, but opinions should be based on rational thought.
> |>> Frankly, the only thing stopping me from supporting
> |>> O'Bama is my inability to get more infomation
> |>> about his background.
>>
>> Two books, voting records from the Illinois
> and U.S. Senate, countless
>> in-depth articles and interviews... By inability
> you mean unwillingness.
>
> You forgot the background check that allowed him
> to be a Senator, his IRS records, his DMV history,
> his Secret Service dossier, and a comprehensive
> periodical search that anyone can do. The sources
> you highlighted don't even scratch the surface.
> So what? The point is that none of this is real
> information. I want to hear from the people he
> befriended in Indonesia (or Malaysia) and Hawaii
> and other such information that publicity devices
> and government reports can't tell you.
>
Hawaii is a U.S. state in case you forgot. But regardless you still offer nothing in the way of evidence or proof for any of your charges, and in the adult world, if you're going to accuse someone of something, it helps your case to have something other than "feelings" and e-mail smear campaigns to back it up.
> |>> At this point I just can't
> |>> vote for someone named Baraq Hussein O'Bama;
>>
>> Nor can you spell his name right apaprently.
>
>
> Was this really necessary? Don't you ever make
> spelling errors?
I do yes. I make typos plenty of times. Though generally the typos involve a letter next to the one I intended to hit, and rarely have excess puncuation marks.
> Haven't you grown beyond this
> 17-year-old, bewb for tat retorting. Don't you
> want to be a writer and a politician? Enough
> already, let the children on this site do that.
>
The racist liar compares me to a child. Irony, thy name is Matty.
> |>Also, "Hussein" is an
>> Arabic word that means "Handsome One." I see
> no reason why one docuehbag
>> who's been dead for several years now (Saddam)
> should be allowed to
>> ruin that anme for everyone.
>
> Whatever, the point wasn't the actual name so
> much as it represents a Muslim man of spurious
> origin.
No, the point is you are an easily misled bigot who seems to think that Muslims are Irish (O'Bama).
> And before you call me a racist or whatever
> personal attack you feel coming...ask yourself
> if it's good idea to investigate little old Polish
> ladies from Brooklyn with the same avarice as
> young Muslim, male immigrants. Further, do bear
> in mind that I consider Barack Obama to be the
> only viable candidate and previously said so.
> My questions about Obama are the same questions
> that over 30% of current McCain supporters have.
>
Based on racist e-mail smear campaigns! Thus, my point stands.
>
> Finally, Brian, if you really want to have an
> intelligent discourse, I would be more than happy
> to do so. But if you are going to continue with
> silly personal attacks or other childish jibs,
> you'll just be another troll to me.
>
Here's the problem; people like you seem to take anytime I offer contradictory evidence as a personal attack. How can you argue with people who when shown something they say is wrong respond not by defending their point but by being accusatory and defensive? | Matty
| | #35 posted July 1, 2008 at 9:21pm (EDT) |
No, you're just another troll, and I won't feed you anymore. Good bye and good riddance | southernyankee
| | #36 posted July 1, 2008 at 10:43pm (EDT) |
The only thing that bothers me about Obama (besides that whole being a typical polition thing) is that he wants to raise the minimum wage with inflation (which will cause MORE inflation, go figure), which I am not really in the mood to argue that point with Frosty right now, and he's also a bit leftwing on the government taking over the health care industry. My beef with McCain is that he's very likely to go to war with Iran, which will cost the taxpayers billions. But other than that, I am not really bothered by either of these guys. But in any case, whoever wins, I just hope they have enough sense to get rid of that Bernard (sp?) guy thats chairing the Federal reserve. | they
| | #37 posted July 1, 2008 at 10:55pm (EDT) |
Oh Brian 
You've never called me a name. Is it because I don't argue with you? Every time someone gets you upset, you start calling them names.
I think I'll play it safe and not give you my opinions either. I don't like being called names. | southernyankee
| | #38 posted July 1, 2008 at 10:59pm (EDT) |
they wrote:
> Oh Brian
>
> You've never called me a name. Is it because I don't argue with you?
> Every time someone gets you upset, you start calling them names.
>
> I think I'll play it safe and not give you my opinions either. I don't
> like being called names.
wuss | they
| | #39 posted July 1, 2008 at 11:03pm (EDT) |
Ha.
Maybe, but...
What's the point? Anyone that disagrees with him gets yelled at.
I like Brian and I agree with most of his ideas. I'm not going to change his mind.. and I can hear what he has to say when he screams it at someone else. | llamamama
| | #40 posted July 1, 2008 at 11:41pm (EDT) |
Matty wrote:
>
> Was this really necessary? Don't you ever make spelling errors?
> Haven't you grown beyond this 17-year-old, bewb for tat retorting.
>
17 year olds do not argue like that. That's more along the lines of a 13 year old, trust me. We're more likely to just throw out inappropriate profanity. And trust me, if I could come up with something clever, I would..just to give you an example.
I'm being serious, by the way. | | |
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