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#1 posted May 8, 2013 at 7:41pm (EST)  
Bill
Would it be possible to set up something to send an email to a survey creator when there survey gets a needs work vote or an HF vote?
bill Bronze Star Survey Creator
#2 posted May 9, 2013 at 7:38am (EST)  
It's possible.

I suspect not many people would use it (assuming I made it an option somehow).

Also, I suspect it may often be too late given potential delays of emails being sent and the survey simply passing qual.

I'm assuming you want to be able to fix any reported issues before the survey gets qualified, even if those qual votes don't actually hold the survey up.

I've considered an alternate idea where a survey creator may choose to hold a survey in qual even after it's qualified so that they get a last chance to edit it if there are minor issues.

None of this is particularly easy to implement either. And, the workaround is just to check back on your survey within the 24 hours it has to pass qual. So, I'm not sure it's worth doing.
FordGuy
#3 posted May 9, 2013 at 8:09am (EST)  
Is it possible to send an email for surveys that have impossible sentence structure and grammar mistakes and run on sentences and I am using my new Obama phone so I don't know if this works and hey I live in Colorado?
bill Bronze Star Survey Creator
#4 posted May 9, 2013 at 12:17pm (EST)  
The Customize page has a filter section that you might find useful.
FordGuy
#5 posted May 9, 2013 at 3:47pm (EST)  
Good point! Hey man, have a Beer !
Strider Survey Central Gold Subscriber
#6 posted May 10, 2013 at 9:30pm (EST)  
Bill what if it the creator could have an option to look at their survey before it's released and then allow it to be released
bill Bronze Star Survey Creator
#7 posted May 10, 2013 at 10:48pm (EST)  
Yeah, that's what I meant before. But, I don't see an easy way to set that up.
msgman
#8 posted May 22, 2013 at 1:00pm (EST)  
I think what I'd like is for a survey which has a "needs work" (or HF) comment to not qualify until the SC has done something to acknowledge them. I think it's reasonable that a creator should be able to disregard NW or HF if they think that they're either unreasonable or invalid, but they should have to explicitly override them in order to do so. Or even force a creator to respond to any NW or HF vote with a comment saying why they're choosing to disregard it (assuming, of course, that they are disregarding it).

While I'm asking for the moon on a stick, what would also be nice is a separate "typo alert!" version of nitpick, which the SC can fix without resetting the time and requiring everyone to vote in qual again.
they Survey Central Subscriber Bronze Star Survey Creator
#9 posted May 22, 2013 at 1:37pm (EST)  
I don't think the time resets anymore, does it?
bill Bronze Star Survey Creator
#10 posted May 22, 2013 at 1:56pm (EST)  
Yes, I think you can edit without resetting the 24 hour timer. I think we changed that at some point.

Generally, I think if a creator comes back to their survey 20-23 hours later; they have a good chance to fix issues at that point. Leaving up how creators remind themselves is left as an exercise for them to figure out. smiley:::smile

I'm hesitant to hold surveys until the creator does something unless there's a serious problem. I'm pretty sure we've had issues of pretty good surveys getting lost in qual because the creator just didn't come back or something like that. I think there's still a mechanism that will delete a survey in qual if it's still around after a week or so.

We could consider going back to qual comments being visible to all qualifiers. That has the tendency to cause qualifiers to act together more. If one finds a small problem, others will also not vote reasonable, for example. Then the survey is hung up until the creator fixes it. That had gotten out of hand in the past, though. At the time, it was a single user using multiple accounts, though. Maybe we're past that, but I'm sure we'd still seem surveys hung up more.

Qual is a little too complicated already. I guess that makes me hesitant to add more mechanisms to it. Maybe making it very simple would be worth considering too.
FordGuy
#11 posted May 22, 2013 at 4:32pm (EST)  
I think what msgman is saying is that as a creator he wants a "shut up stupid" button.
msgman
#12 posted May 22, 2013 at 5:22pm (EST)  
Ah, the good old days of "wees" smiley:::smile

It does irritate me a bit, possibly unreasonably, that when I've spotted something that's indisputably wrong with a survey (eg, an obvious typo, as opposed to merely a disagreement about how an option should be worded or whether it needs an "other" or not) and mark it as needs work, other people don't spot it and happily qualify it. It rather goes against the whole concept of qualification as being some kind of quality control if the people voting in qualification don't actually exercise any control over quality.

I'm not entirely sure how best to address that, though. On the whole, I think I prefer it when qualification comments are visible. But I don't like the herd mentality which that can generate.
LindaH
#13 posted May 22, 2013 at 11:38pm (EST)  
I'll admit it - when SC gets really slow and not many surveys are being made or getting through, I go lax on qual. I figure anything is better than nothing.
bill Bronze Star Survey Creator
#14 posted May 23, 2013 at 8:08am (EST)  
I can fix typos after a survey is qualified as well.

I actually did this to my own survey recently. FordGuy spotted a missing "of" in qual and I fixed it quickly (but embarrassingly screwed it up and put the 'of' in the wrong place). The survey was qualified despite FordGuy's hopelessly flawed vote. But, I fixed it soon after it was released.

I realize none of you have this power. But, you can send me a private reply and just ask or suggest I fix a typo (or anything objectively just wrong) in a survey, as a sort of workaround.
FordGuy
#15 posted May 29, 2013 at 11:40am (EST)
edited May 29, 2013 at 11:44am (EST)  
That seems like too much burden on you, Bill. You've got more important things to do, like create Beer icons! smiley:::smile And for the record, I HF'd it because I thought for sure it was Jessicaman99.
bill Bronze Star Survey Creator
#16 posted May 29, 2013 at 1:26pm (EST)
edited May 29, 2013 at 1:26pm (EST)  
ouch
FordGuy
#17 posted May 29, 2013 at 2:46pm (EST)  
Sorry man.
bill Bronze Star Survey Creator
#18 posted May 29, 2013 at 3:28pm (EST)  
Beer Beer Beer feeling better now
FordGuy
#19 posted May 29, 2013 at 4:30pm (EST)  
Excellent! I'm having my "Watch The Parade" Beer now. (The parade is every day when they bring all the cars back into the shop. Since I'm 6'5" and don't fit into little British cars, all I can do is watch. And Beer
FordGuy
#20 posted May 29, 2013 at 4:32pm (EST)
edited May 29, 2013 at 4:33pm (EST)  
We need one of these.... image
cerealkiller
#21 posted May 29, 2013 at 7:30pm (EST)  
FordGuy wrote:
> Excellent! I'm having my "Watch The Parade" Beer
> now. (The parade is every day when they bring
> all the cars back into the shop. Since I'm 6'5"
> and don't fit into little British cars, all I
> can do is watch. And Beer

6'-5" but what weight? Our oldest is 6'-5" also, but 305 lbs. No, he doesn't play football.
FordGuy
#22 posted May 30, 2013 at 11:25am (EST)  
I weigh 225 positive/negative 3 pounds no matter what I eat or do.
bill Bronze Star Survey Creator
#23 posted May 30, 2013 at 2:56pm (EST)  
*jealous emoticon* (I know smiley:::envy but it looks like puking)