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gambler
#1 posted January 19, 2012 at 3:51pm (EDT)  
.......If you install/ installed a Bluray read/write drive into your computer, chances are it would not be able to play? even if you have all the correct software etc?

This is because all your hardware needs to be "HDCP compliant" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hdcp basically a system setup by Intel corp to prevent copying of digital audio and video content as it travels across connections. These connections include popular ones like DisplayPort (DP), Digital Visual Interface (DVI), and High-Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI).

Most newer model HDTV's have this already, so this issue doesnt even come up for most people and few people install BluRay drives ...but for people like me, I have to buy a new monitor to be able to play movies- I can use a different software player and/or rip to a different format I guess......

LindaH Gold Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
#2 posted January 19, 2012 at 9:15pm (EDT)  
My husband built a computer that plays blu ray. I'm not sure what he put in there.
dab Survey Qualifier
#3 posted January 19, 2012 at 10:40pm (EDT)  
It's pretty damned annoying, the way that electronics manufacturers are acquiescing to movie studio demands to make it as difficult as possible for people who buy their movies to watch them. I have to admit that I kinda want a Blueray player but this issue has caused me to put it off even though I have an HDMI path to my television. It's just too offensive.

I haven't looked into it for a while, but last I heard the encryption in Blueray had gotten good enough that it wasn't a sure thing that you'll even be able to rip the disks to a different format so you can catch them.
Lysannus Survey Qualifier
#4 posted January 20, 2012 at 5:05am (EDT)  
dab wrote:

> I haven't looked into it for a while, but last I heard the encryption
> in Blueray had gotten good enough that it wasn't a sure thing that
> you'll even be able to rip the disks to a different format so you
> can catch them.

They change the encryption on DVDs about every 2-3 months and blue-ray has changed 6 different times sine its introduction.
It takes about 2 days for the guru's to come out with a patch that breaks it. The last blue-ray encryption took them 3 days,
so yeah I guess they are getting somewhat better.
gambler
#5 posted January 20, 2012 at 9:08am (EDT)  
I have been doing some research, the HDCP is pretty much a non-issue for "most" people as blu-ray players and Flat screens, cable boxes have the compliance already so you wouldn't even notice.
But HERE I have an oldish monitor and have just installed the Blu-Ray Drive, it also becomes an issue for people who were early adopters of HDTV's and connect a Blu-ray player and wonder why they are getting a blank screen?


What you guys are referring to is slightly different as your talking about encryption etc, The ripper/convertor I use will defeat most if not at all current encryption and you can do a lossless rip if you wish to MKV, I can rip to all of the following formats H.264/MPEG-4, DivX, XviD, MKV, MP4, AVI, MPEG, WMV, FLV, SWF, F4V, MOV, 3GP, 3G2, VOB, TS, DV, MPEG-2 HD Video (*.mpg), MPEG- TS Video(*.ts), Quick Time HD Video (*.mov), WMV HD Video (*.wmv), Audio-Video Interleaved HD Video (*.avi). They just had an update in Apr 11, I am guessing that was to crack the last encyption


I do it because I sometimes ONLY want parts of a movie and want the BEST quality, right now (I know I know a guy thing) I am working on a "Best movie Fight scenes" DVD  * smile * ...
gambler
#6 posted January 20, 2012 at 9:09am (EDT)
edited January 20, 2012 at 9:10am (EDT)  
dab wrote:
> It's pretty damned annoying, the way that electronics
> manufacturers are acquiescing to movie studio
> demands to make it as difficult as possible for
> people who buy their movies to watch them. I
> have to admit that I kinda want a Blueray player
> but this issue has caused me to put it off even
> though I have an HDMI path to my television.
> It's just too offensive.
>
> I haven't looked into it for a while, but last
> I heard the encryption in Blueray had gotten good
> enough that it wasn't a sure thing that you'll
> even be able to rip the disks to a different format
> so you can catch them.

.......Im sure you checked but, if you google your make and model I am sure it is HDCP compliant (Unless its one of the early ones) in which case you will have no issues whatsoever
dab Survey Qualifier
#7 posted January 20, 2012 at 10:40am (EDT)  
It's relatively early but I'm pretty sure I looked it up once and it claims to be HDCP compliant. My issue is that I think the policy is wrong headed from the very beginning and I don't want to support it. I also buy only eBooks that come without DRM. Baen Books has been getting a lot of my business recently.
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#8 posted January 20, 2012 at 1:08pm (EDT)  
damn I hate this crap. I liked being able to plug something in and it would work. Done. Fun shouldn't be that stressful just because you don't know this stuff.
LindaH Gold Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
#9 posted January 20, 2012 at 5:00pm (EDT)  
remember when remotes didn't have to be programmed?

channel button
volume button
cerealkiller Bronze Star Survey Creator
#10 posted January 20, 2012 at 5:19pm (EDT)  
It's all Greek to me. We have a DvD player that gets used maybe once every couple years, old-school tube TV's and no I-anything(no Ipod's, Iphones, Ipads, etc.). I have a 4 year old cell phone I'm reluctant to give up because it is very hard these days to get JUST a dang phone without all the other bullcrap. And one without a dang keyboard or touchscreen.

Oh, we do have a Bose wave radio and it is also hooked into the TV audio output. Never use it. I've got shelves of old high-end stereo equipment (Marantz, Sony, JBL, etc.) in the garage. Obviously never use it.
LindaH Gold Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
#11 posted January 20, 2012 at 7:09pm (EDT)  
You could donate it to a worthy audiophile
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#12 posted January 21, 2012 at 11:50am (EDT)  
 * laughing out loud *