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kaleb777
#1 posted September 10, 2004 at 10:25am (EST)  


What has caused the Russian actions? The Chechens could have lived in peace in Russia but instead some of them want to create an Islamic state where they can enforce archaic laws that discriminate against women and could see gays executed. If people who wanted to subjugate women and execute gay people and eliminate religious freedom overran one of the British counties I'm sure the rest of Britain would have something to say about it.

This problem started because of the actions of Islamic fundamentalists. Russia just didn't arbitrarily decide to attack it's own citizens in Chechnya.

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kaleb777
#2 posted September 10, 2004 at 6:10am (EST)  

Using Brian's (or whatever he wants to call himself today) logic, if you discuss the negative aspects of Nazism you are a racist because he equates any opposition to the teachings of a group as racism despite religion or political affiliation having absolutely nothing to do with race.

The racist is Brian who assumes when anyone discusses Islam they are somehow attacking Arabs. Brian obviously does not know that people of all races are Muslims and that therefore the criticism of Islam (which is a religion and therefore a choice) cannot be racism, but no one ever accused Brian of knowing what he was talking about.

If I gave a damn what Brian thought of me I would be careful not to make any remarks against Nazism either in case he accuse me of racism. I should be careful to qualify my attacks against Nazism in the same way the loony left here want me to do with Islam, after all, not ALL Nazis actually killed Jews did they?

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kaleb777
#3 posted September 10, 2004 at 5:53am (EST)  

Did I say it was ALL Muslims?

Don't fall into Brian's way of thinking.

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kaleb777
#4 posted September 10, 2004 at 5:52am (EST)  

I simply posted information about radical Islam that I found on websites like BBC.

That isn't racism. Is saying that the 9/11 terrorists were Muslims racist? Duh

And I never, ever used the phrase "religion of hate". I used the phrase "religion of peace" which is what moderate Muslims have called Islam in the press.

God you're a nasty little man who likes to make up stories.

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kaleb777
#5 posted September 10, 2004 at 5:45am (EST)  

ISLAM ISN'T A RACE YOU FUDGING IDIOT!

Your statement shows how ignorant you are. Firstly, statements of facts connot ever be called racism.

Secondly, Islam is a religion and is therefore a CHOICE. Race is not a choice. Sex is not a choice. Sexual attraction is not a choice. Political and religious affiliation ARE choices. Understand?

Since Islam is a CHOICE I am entitled to challenge it in any way I see fit. Just as I feel I am entitled to attack Nazism or any other belief system that teaches hatred of Jews.

Thank you so much for your comment declaring that by talking about a religion I am a racist. Nothing I could ever say could come anywhere near that statement for making you look like the complete fudging ignorant fool you are.  * grin *



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kaleb777
#6 posted September 9, 2004 at 11:53am (EST)  

Omar Bakri Mohammed, a British Muslim cleric has stated that holding women and children hostage would be a reasonable course of action for a Muslim who has suffered under British rule.

Hang on, didn't these geniuses voluntarily move to Britain?

He also claims that the Muslim terrorists in Russia did not kill any women and children but that it was the Russians.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/ne...

Ok ICUROK and MAARTEN, start apologising for this nut.

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kaleb777
#7 posted September 9, 2004 at 11:18am (EST)  

Stop telling lies Maarten. I have told you so many times that frankly I think you must be either retarded or just stirring.

Firstly, Australia is the driest continent on the planet after Antarctica. It is "empty" as you like to constantly repeat, because it is almost all desert with summer temperatures into the low 50s. The people who live here now are running out of water. No one lives in the desert. that's why it's empty. Do some research before you make a fool of yourself.

Secondly, Australia does not and has not ever refused entry to refugees. Please don't keep peddling out this lie every time you want to make a silly point.

Now if you want to talk about irresponsibility, look at the Netherlands which is so overpopulated that it has to raise sea levels by reclaiming land. The Netherlands can't feed itself because it is too overpopulated so it has to rely on third world workers earning slave wages to grow their food. This is commonly called the "Netherlands Fallacy"

"The Netherlands can support 1,031 people per square mile only because the rest of the world does not. In 1984-86, the Netherlands imported almost 4 million tons of cereals, 130,000 tons of oils, and 480,000 tons of pulses (peas, beans, lentils). It took some of these relatively inexpensive imports and used them to boost their production of expensive exports -— 330,000 tons of milk and 1.2 million tons of meat. The Netherlands also extracted about a half-million tons of fishes from the sea during this period, and imported more in the form of fish meal.

The Netherlands is also a major importer of minerals, bringing in virtually all the iron, antimony, bauxite, copper, tin, etc., that it requires. Most of its fresh water is "imported" from upstream nations via the Rhine River. The Dutch built their wealth using imported energy. Then, in the 1970s, the discovery of a large gas field in the northern part of the nation allowed the Netherlands temporarily to export as gas roughly the equivalent in energy of the petroleum it continued to import. But when the gas fields (which represent about twenty years' worth of Dutch energy consumption at current rates) are exhausted, Holland will once again depend heavily on the rest of the world for fossil fuels or uranium.

In short, the people of the Netherlands didn't build their prosperity on the bounty of the Netherlands, and are not living on it now. Before World War II, they drew raw materials from their colonies; today they still depend on the resources of much of the world. Saying that the Netherlands is thriving with a density of 1,031 people per square mile simply ignores that those 1,031 Dutch people far exceed the carrying capacity of that square mile."

The Netherlands is a greedy, overpopulated abuser of workers and resources from other countries. Holland is the fat man of Europe demanding the "darkies" bring him more everything. The Netherlands lives well beyond its means and then Maarten criticises Australia for trying to live within its means. The Netherlands in an abberation that only still exists because it rides on the backs of poor third world workers and uses far more resources than it can produce.

Don't ever criticize Australia for not being as irresponsible and unsustainable as the Netherlands Maarten. I'm proud we aren't.

Besides all of that, I can't believe Maarten is trying to justify yet another terrorist attack where innocent people were maimed or killed. Well maybe I can.
kaleb777
#8 posted September 9, 2004 at 9:26am (EST)  

"This country will never have its position on issues like that dictated by terrorism, and the day any country surrenders decisions on these things to the dictates of barbarism and terrorism is the day a country loses control over its future."
- Australian Prime Minister John Howard
kaleb777
#9 posted September 9, 2004 at 8:35am (EST)  

Jamaa Islamia

Allah is Great  * wry smile *
kaleb777
#10 posted September 9, 2004 at 3:46am (EST)  

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1195760.htm
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