Should it be legal for people to consensually fight in public, without weapons?

> Same to you.

A

Okay, how about Sugar smacks?

You are a nut! But I like you in spite of yourself.

C

Who would need to know?

Tired of it. Violence is not family fun entertainment. There has been so much of it in the past. Riots, gang murders, punks starting trouble...there hasn't been much of that in the mainstream lately like in the 60's, 70's, 80's, so it is nice to be able to go out into the public and not have to witness someone else's bullcrap issues.

Okay. I can see that. I still wonder what most people's threshold is. Fistfighting is a bit extreme.

No, because I don't think this is very practical. I mean, you never know how badly someone can get hurt. I mean, last year in school two girls went at it out fo nowhere, and the brunette pulled out a nice chunk of the blond's hair. And my beloved went out with he brunette for a while as I stewed in jealousy. :] what was I talking about?

> No, because I don't think this is very practical.
> I mean, you never know how badly someone
> can get hurt. I mean, last year in school
> two girls went at it out fo nowhere, and
> the brunette pulled out a nice chunk of the
> blond's hair. And my beloved went out with
> he brunette for a while as I stewed in jealousy.
> :] what was I talking about?

Practical? I love it! You are right it is not practical.

This goes on all the time in hick town middle America when the bars close. No one gives a crap.

I don't see how you would enforce the 'no weapons' clause.

Easy. If they aren't holding/carrying/weilding any objects to use as weapons on each other, they aren't using weapons.

Yeah, but how are you meant to keep tabs on every fight to know whether people are using weapons or not?

Usually they are phoned in as people witness them. Witnesses call police if a fight gets out of hand. Excessive dangerousness, forcefullness, bloodshed and weapons would constitute a call to police. No one needs to keep tabs on every fight.
I would personally not bother calling the police if I were witnessing a fair fight where no blood was being spilled. I don't think pushing, clothes grabbing, etc warrants a call to the cops. I guess it's a judgment call.

I think it depends on the very specific circumstances. A "non-crowded open space" could mean a lot of different things. It could be a school ground. It could be private property...

I think it also depends on how far they go with this fist fight. Something that looks like a boxing match? No big deal. Something that looks like a street brawl? Battering each other until they are bleeding and still continuing? Not good.

I think it should be illegal. Basically, if it attracts enough attention that the police get involved, it isn't okay.

I pegged this as one of yours.

It was inspired by the results of Bill's dueling survey. I don't think those 'yes' answers there could possibly be serious.

Probably not.

I pretty much agree with those sentiments. That's why I think it's an over-reaction when people get all hyper-involved to break up a shouting or slapping match.

Yes....... but people should still watch for a sufficient amount of time... and then pull them off of each other like normal.

...silly nervous busybody bystanders. I'll never understand em.

It depends - perhaps they should use their common sense as to whether it is reasonable and appropriate for them to do it or not...

Only if it's a mating ritual.

No....it is disturbing the peace of others.....it's having consideration for others NOT TO FIGHT in public. For those that want or need violence in their lives....just watch TV....you'll get plenty of it...., keep it within one's own walls.

I believe in self discipline, composure, having rapport. Only in an uncivilized, barbaric society would it be legal for people to act like animals.

Thinking back, I think I made this survey too over the top. Fistfight. What was I thinking? I should have made one about mild scrapping. Slapping, grabbing clothes, that sort of thing.

That being said, I am a mellow sort. It doesn't disturb my peace to see other people fighting. I don't fight, I don't look for fights, but it does not bother me to see them.

I'm a very patient person, I don't fight, do not look for fights. I'm a person that believes in being able to solve issues without bashing, anyone with fists or words. BUT, I feel people owe it to others to not hang their "dirty laundry" out in public for others to see....as it can harm others emotionally. I was once at a water park, and two men got into a fight while in line. My heart almost went out, I started screaming, asking them to stop, begged for people to stop the fight. The fight did stop fairly quick, but many others felt the same as I. I'm not saying I wouldn't fight or kill if need be, but it would have to be of a very serious nature,...for survival of family, and country.

I don't believe anyone owes that to strangers. I think it's harder for some people to refrain from fighting than it is for other people to see it. My reasoning is that anger is harder to contain than annoyance or worry. It's harder to shrug it off when you want to yell at someone than it is to shrug off the fact you had to listen to it.
It is for me, anyway. I have more sympathy for people who are fighting than I have for people who get worried about strangers who are fighting each other.
I was in a store breezeway, where some guy said something really mean to the woman he was with (I'm guessing cuss words were involved?) A lady overheard and said "Hey! Don't talk to her like that." This sent the guy into a screaming tirade, directing his cussing at the stranger. "This is none of your business, b----. This is a family matter." etc. I felt sorry for everyone involved, but I felt the most sorry for the guy. I could relate to his reasoning the most.

From my studies of the Five Element Theory, anger is stored in the liver. I suggest someone with that problem, to take something to calm their temper in treating their liver, and counseling. I still say, it is not fair, in bad taste, for a person to act out in public.

Anger is a natural reaction to a triggering event, just the same way crying, sadness is a reaction to a gloomy event. Anger is as legitimate and healthy as sadness. Expressing anger in public is just as justifiable as expressing sadness or happiness. I think more people should do it, and the stigma against it should not exist. It's unhealthy to bottle up anger in the middle of a stressful event.

Yes, it may be a natural reaction, but I think it's also something that can be controlled, and if it can't, a person has a problem. If what you say was so, you can say it's okay for a man to hit a woman because of something she might have said...it's a natural reaction according to you....but he should hold his composure. This could also be a visa versa situation too.

I think it can and should be controlled, to a point. (Physical violence) I think there's such thing as too much control. If you don't let it out somehow, it's unhealthy. That's why I think people who feel so inclined should be able to yell more, slam things more, etc.

Anger can be a stored issue from childhood, or an inherited one. Either way, the issue should be handled with calm, because without doing it by being calm, the anger will continued to be felt by the liver, and sent to the brain, with continued lack of control. A person should treat their liver with herbal formulas (to calm liver), and counseling. By acting out, by yelling, slamming things, long term it does not help the person, and just disrupts other peoples lives.

If you handle an issue with calm, and have a pretty good idea that the other person is not going to take you seriously, argue back, get defensive and frustrating anyway, you might as well skip the calm step and go straight to the fury. Saves time.

Yelling and slamming things doesn't hurt anyone. It doesn't disrupt other people's lives.

You have to look for the remedy, not just acting out. .

Yelling and slamming things I suppose doesn't hurt anyone else.......as long as it's inside one's own walls, and no one is in earshot.

When you are not taken seriously, and your complaints make people argumentative and defensive, there is no remedy.

Even people in earshot aren't hurt by it, unless it's so excessively loud that it gives them a headache.

There is what I call a "discussion", a difference of opinion between people, but becoming intrusive, loud, physical, I draw the line there.

I understand what you are saying about someone not taking serious your feelings or complaints, it can be frustrating, but don't take it out in public....it's not fair to others. In this type of case, if it's a couple, I would suggest them to get counseling, and sometimes counseling doesn't work, and then in that case you make decisions to either live with it, or get out of the relationship...

I don't see how it isn't fair to others. But then, that's me. I personally don't mind hearing it. I just don't see why others find it annoying. I don't think I'll ever see why others find it annoying. Seems so much like nothing/no big deal to me.

And what if you happen to be out in public when someone frustrates you?

My motto is "the less said, the better". Recently, I was talking to a young neighbor in a medium in a Safeway parking lot. A man got out of his truck, with two women. He said something, but didn't pay any attention. My neighbor, asked me what he said, I said I don't know. I went into the store to the deli. I saw one woman at the counter, there was only one clerk. I happen to see a clerk in the back, and she asked if I needed help, I said yes. She came out, and asked me want I wanted, when all of a sudden the same gentlemen from the parking lot piped up, I'm next. (he wasn't at the counter) I said, oh I'm sorry I didn't know you were next. He sarcastically said "yes you did, I'm the one from the parking lot." I didn't say a word, the lady took care of him. I feel he got out of the bed on the wrong side, feel he was looking for an argument. I didn't give him the satisfaction.. I've, never knowingly, cut in front of anyone ever. I did not see the man.