If a woman hits a man, does that man have the right to hit her back?

Yes, of course!

My tenet is that irregardless of sex or strength, no-one should have a right to hit someone unless they were hit first.

To say a women can hit is a man but not the other way round is the same as saying a strong man isn't allowed to hit a weak man but the other way round is okay.

It don't make no sense!

Never. It's not socially acceptable. Besides, just about every man's upper strength rivals or exceeds that of a woman.

Read my comment below and remember the American mantra: "Pick on someone your own size". Not only is it not looked upon in modern society as appropriate, but it's unfair to use an advantage like that. You yourself compared "woman" with "weak man". And although this will probably piss people off, there's a basis in truth there.
Any man who hits a woman is a malevolent bastard and a coward.

No...but he should.

Well, looking at it from the christian point of view, turn the other cheek. But from a humans point of view, it would depend. Usually no. But if I were confronted by a 6'5 250 pound woman who plays rugby for a career, well, I wouldn't want to hit her back.

Legally though...he doesn't have the right. Nobody has the right to hit anyone. It's assault. But I do agree if a woman hits a man...he should be able to smack her back. But neither of them have the "right" to smack each other around.

No body has the right to hit anyone. Male or female.

Yep... but not too hard!

With equal force ONLY. Not more.
People should not be hitting each other anyway, regardless of gender or anything else. Keep your hands to yourself.

*smack*
*runs away*

I guess yes... but de-escalation of some form would be a better option

Ye-es. Sort of. Technically. I don't really think violence is the best way forward.

yep

feels yuckie to be made to look like a git by a 14-yr-old, huh?

#1 Phoebe didn't make him look like a git from where I'm standing. What planet are you on that your perspective's so different?

No. Unless it's necessary to use violence in self-defence, but that's a different scenario. Simply hitting someone just because they hit you isn't acceptable.

I have to say neither one of them should hit one another. Violence causes more violence...

No one has the right to hit anyone.

You are absolutely right!

To defend himself sure. Sadly though it's a statistical fact that any guy who dares to defend himself froma women who beating on him gets thrown in jail while the women gets undeserved symptahy. Having lived in a battered-husband relationship for almost the first half of my life, I can say with ertainty that it's not a myth like some Feminazis would have you believe. Real feminists know it's not a myth, but sadly their voice isn't as loud and thus doesn't get heard like the Militant doges.

Yes, he does. This "don't hit girls" policy gives women an unfair advantage in that they could kill a man all because he is not allowed to fight back.

Any woman who hits a man is a malevolent bastard and coward.

Although you know nothing about rap, you are one of the smartest people I know. You've said it exactly like it is.

No, but he does have the right to call the police and have her arrested for battery.

*hits Mandy... very softly*

OW!

Allrigghhhtt. I am always happy to hear that there are other people who believe this.... I think people today should be evolved enough to be able to somehow control their violent impulses before they do something they will regret for the rest of their lives... Look at the recent history of human beings -- with all their racist violence, in the southern US, for instance, i.e., they used to lynch black people regularly in the not-too-distant past... Then look at today's news about the hockey dad who lost it, and now at least two families' lives are ruined, including the kids....

Nothing about rap? That is insulting. I know more about rap then you. Why? Becuase all you know you get from your stupid conformist peers (really, being an indivudal by doing what their friends are doing, and liking what the media TELLS them to like? Sheep), and the record conglomeratyes that push the shlock on the willing-to-be-hypnotized teen sheeple of America like yourself. I mean, really, anyone who could find signifgance and deep meaning in a guy chanting Deadant over and over for 2 minutes needs a labotomy.

This question requires a little interpretation on my part. When you say "right" I assume you mean "legal rights". So you are asking us about assault laws in the jurisdiction in which we live? My understanding of the laws in Canada is that if there is an assault, the victim may defend themselves from continued assault through whatever means are available to them. The amount of force used should not be unduly excessive. In other words, you can't kill somebody because they slapped you. You can kill somebody if they attempt to kill you or do you serious bodily harm. You can incapacitate someone if they are repeatedly attacking you in an attempt to inflict injury on you. That sort of thing. If one person is significantly smaller and weaker than the other, that should be taken into consideration as well. As far as I know, gender is not an issue however. I'm not a lawyer or anything, but I did take a course recently which covered some of this material. I'm pretty confident that what I've represented here is a fairly accurate description of the way Canada's laws see this situation.

In summary, my answer is "Yes", provided that the response is a reasonable defence given the relative size and strength of the combatants.

Guys with CLASS don't hit women,no matter what.When a guy walks away from a confrontation,with a women,it makes him look cool & refined.Tho,I must admit,some women,really deserve a good slap,sometimes.

maybe, i think it depends on the situation. i don't believe in violence of any type so i am the wrong person to ask.

So maybe, if a woman needs to be slapped and the man turns around and walks away, another woman should...

never mind. Just a thought

** spank me baby,I've been bad,so bad** Oh my gosh,where the heck did that come from???

Mental note,no more Zima for me!!

If I hit a man I would expect to be hit back. I would only hit a man in a playful way though.

No. 2 wrongs don't make a right... The man has to learn to duck out of the way!
(of course, it may be tempting to hit back - it's not recommended)

No, I listen to my own music, regardless of what other people like. I like DMX because he's good, not because other people like him. I listen to my own music, and that's why I know a lot of songs from the 60s, 70s, and 80s, while everyone at school is amazed at my music knowledge.

He has the right to defend himself, but it is really never right for anyone to hit anyone else.

What I said and what you said are not mutually exclusive. However, why a coward? Physical violence is not the solution to anything, but it's a bit far-fetched to call someone who is incitating a fight with someone who could possibly kill her a coward.

have the right... does anyone have the right to hit someone else? I'd say that there's a certain moral latitude that you have once you've been attacked, but that still doesn't make it "right". at that level whether it's a man or a woman doesn't even begin to enter into it.

Too vague of a question. I would need to know more about the individual situation.

No offense, but as for your music knowledge at school, I refer you to the old addage in the kingdom of the blind the man with one eye is king.

yup.

Well, what gives her the right to initiate a fight at all? Women shouldn't hit men either.

(I'm not defending the rights of women to fight if they should fight. I'm defending just fight)

Okay, you're completely confused yourself.

No, I'm not. Do you uncomprehend the meaning of the word "just"?

No, but you think men shouldn't hit women, even if the woman is killing the man, and that is wrong.

Don't put words in my mouth. I never said that.

Only if her name is Anne-Marie Teitelbaum of Collingswood, NJ -- in which case, you should be able to beat the crap out of her.

FYI: My posting above is purely satirical. To my knowledge, no such person exists.

No, a man should not hit a woman. I think he, obviously, has a right to protect himself, but I think it is unmanly to hit a woman. I don't think women should hit men either, they should exercise some control also. People should not hit one another.

It really depends on the situation. If the girl has a good reason for hitting him then no. But if she's a stupid chicken then yes she should be hit back. And guys, girls do not like to be beaten with plastic bats, or punched, or stabbed.

but you spanked your children?

Absolutely. If we want equality, we should take an all or nothing stance. People are people, not black and white, women and men. If you hit someone, expect to be hit back.

Now, whether or not there should be any hitting at all is another story...

I wouldn't consider it criminal activity, however, I wouldn't, and if it were my daugher he were hitting back, the situation would escalate very rapidly.

No more than she had the right to hit him.

That depends.

IMO-this whole discussion is stupid. Wemen don't abuse men nearly as often as the other way round. Men hurt thier wives/ girlfriends.

But it does happen.

No-one has a "right" to hit anyone back.

Oh- I am sure that it does, but to even insinuate that it is the same thing is *so* wrong. Wemen are genrally sweet natured and will not strike out at a man unless they feel so terribly threatened that they don't know what else to do. And a woman cannot do the damage that a man can.
It makes me crazy when people assume that they know what "should" be or "is" when they have never been there.
I'm sorry. Touchy subject.

So, you have your doubts about battered husband syndrome then?

First of all, being battered is not a syndrome or an illness. It is a action that is inflicted on one person by another.
And no, I don't doubt that husbands are abused- SOMETIMES.
It is NOT the same thing as when a woman is abused!!!!!
I am sorry if this has ever happened to you. I am not saying that it never does. But it is just not the same.

But it is! The abused spouse has feelings of co-dependency, and may have been abused as children as well. They stay with the abuser becuase of fear, or out of neccesity. My dad went throguh this, and frankly you're whole "it's not the same" speech is insulting.

Of course he does. I know a couple of girls who start on men cos they know they are not gonna get hit back. I'd love to see them get a punch in the face.

???

No. Being hit doesn't give anyone the right to hit back.

Self-defense is an entirely orthogonal issue which gives one the right to hit someone as soon as it is readily apparent that they're trying to do you serious harm and takes it away as soon as they are not; who has actually hit whom how many times is irrelevant.

I am not giving you a speech, you are the one that responded to my comment.
I feel badly that your father has been abused- no one deserves that.
I feel that you are too far removed from the situation to know what it is like.
You will not fully understand until it has happened to you.
Everyone THINKS that they understand- because they know someone who has been there, but you never really understand until you are the one dealing with it on a everyday basis.
And no, being abused as a child is not a pre-requisite to being a abused spouse.
YOU are insulted by ME!!!!????

What a joke.

A joke? Why don';t you blow me jerk-off? I LIVED in that house. I spent the first 9 years of my life wathcing my mother abuse my father. She also abused me. So don't you DARE call me far removed you reatrded piece of crap! How DARE you claim to know my life and my expereinces you sick fudge!

Just because you were abused as a child does not give you the right to talk to me like that! And why did your father stay with your mother if she was abusing the both of you?
Because he was scared that he had no where to go?
Because he was scared that he would not be able to get a job to support his child?
Because he had no car to leave even if he wanted to?
Because he had no credit or anything else to his own name?
I CAN TELL YOU THE ANSWER TO THAT!
THE ANSWER IS NO!
THIS IS A MANS WORLD AND IT IS THE WOMEN WHO ARE STUCK IN THESE HORRIBLE SITUATIONS!
You are not the only one with a hard life by the way! But all we seem to hear you do is fudging whine about it!
I could whine about how hard it is to be in my crapty relationship with a man that puts me in the hospital and has caused me to have many surgeries, how horrible it is to sit up at night and cry about it and not be able to even GO to the fudging doctor!!!!!!!!!
You are absolutely pathetic!
My father abused my Mom for 7 years of my life!
And miraculously this is the first time that I have said anything about it!!!!
Does that give me the right to dog everyone else out all the time?
NO!
But for some unknown reason YOU think that everyone needs to boo- hoo for you all the gosh darn time!
FUDGING GROW UP!!!!!
YOU WERE A KID!!!
IT'S OVER!!!
YOU DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT ANYMORE!!!!!

I apologize to every other SC user for my outburst.
Please forgive me.

THIS IS A MANS WORLD AND IT IS THE WOMEN WHO ARE STUCK IN THESE HORRIBLE SITUATIONS!

Oh so my Mom was trapped ina horrible situation where she had to beat me and my father? I hate people like you who constantly feel the need to degrade me and my life. You and ASB. You're all stupid doges far as I'm concerned as you run around declaring all my problems and personal issues 'dumb' and 'stupid' and 'pathetic' and that I'm wrong about how bad it is.

Answer to what is no? If the question is, "Does cuteasabutton have a right to speak for my father or have access to his thoughts" then NO is the right answer. But if the question is what you said it was, the answer is you are a fudging asshoile. Plain and simple. You have NO RIGHT to say what my Father's mindset was so take your self-righteous arrogance and ram it so far up your it pierces what few remaining brain cells you have.

Why can't you be more like mandy and SueBee and have this little thing we humans like to call compassion? I may not be any better than you but they certainly are.

I am quite bored with you. You really need to grow up. Your mother did something wrong, and I am sure that is was not easy for you. But your father let it happen. Plain and simple.
And yes, I think mandy and Sue Bee are very nice people.
Notice that they don't whine at all of us about all of their childhood crap?
Take a lesson from them, please.

I am quite bored with you. You really need to grow up. Your mother did something wrong, and I am sure that is was not easy for you. But your father let it happen. Plain and simple.

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Go fudge yourself you stupid cow. You do not know ANYTHING about my life. You ar enot me. You are not my father. So shut up with your pointless assumptions you arrogant pig. It takes a narcisistic personality to assume that you know everything about people you've never even met. Hell, you don't even know my father's name so shut the fudge up.

Wait a sec! Weren't you the retard who said that my father was an anti-American terrorist, because he had a beard? I'm filtering you you ignoramus!

Hi

*nothing like breaking up a conversation*

I am sorry- but it was not me who said anything about your fathers beard. I didn't even know he had one.

And I have to say that you calling me names makes you sound so intelligent. Keep up the good work!

Hello Wicksy! Nice to see someone nice for a change!

Please read my message for you in forum. Pretty Please? Its nothing bad.

You are very gracious

I am? Thank you. I was just trying to make right a wrong. I just hope he reads it.

He can be cool too Or snappy. But he *can* be cool

I'm sure. Everyone has a cranky side.

Hello cutey. Just to let you know that I am in Wicksy survey. I'm on my way to forum - after I get over the shock. Not of your outburst but of Brian's. I see how it developed. Obviously it is a sensitive issue for both of you. Well anyway I'm on my way to forum.
((hug))

((hug)) If you're reading this then I'm glad to see you back. Go to forum.

OK. Oh, and the post you relied to, I just remembered. It was mimind who said that. Sorry cuteasabutton!

Happy Birthday!!!!!!

Yep. The big Two-Oh. All I can say is, HOLY CRAP!

I posted your birthday poem in the Forum

Saturday 1:10pm
Happy Belated Birthday Brian!! Did you receive your name yet?

Totally of the subject,But who will you be favoring tomorrow for Super Bowl?? I'm going with the RAMS>

There's a message for you from Cleo just above

Yes I did receive my name. Thanks a bunch. As for me, I'm going with the Patriots. Third time's a charm I say.

2:13pm
lol lol lol We'll see! IMHO I think the Rams want it more. Ever since they moved to St.Louis they've done nothing but improve.They got game. I'm kinda glad that they left L.A. We never gave them the respect they deserved.

I'm so glad that you received your name.

Thank you Biggles for forwarding my mail I love ya girlfriend!

No, but if she is threating his life then he has the right to stop her.

No, regardless of the sex of the people involved.

Yes, I did spank my children. "Spare the rod, spoil the child".

"People should not hit one another."
-lerogist

You just typed that. Are children not people, then?

Also...In biblical times as well as modern times, shepards didn't spank or beat or hit sheep with their rods. Rods and staffs are for comfort and guidance. What bible are you reading?

Enheduanna pretty much covered this two years ago in survey 3543. To summarize, the proverb in question does in fact fairly explicitly suggest physically beating your children.

I am sure glad you provided that link...realizing now that I never saw Enheduanna's response, I stand corrected then.

I assumed rod meant the same thing in Psalms as it did in Proverbs. Silly me

Anyway, let me make this point, all biblical law aside. I was beaten regularly by my mother and I'm sure that is the reason I am a sick and demented pervert today. I was spanked and beaten as a child and as a result I get off on it as an adult.
*laughs*