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| 5291 | I know what it is like to get picked on too, and from my experience, it was never considered 'wrong' to pick on other students, even if those students tended to react. | Which student should be punished? |
| 5292 | So if Charlie went around all day every day daring students to break windows, give people wedgies, paint on things, make messes, glue locks shut, push and shove people, but he never ever did any of this stuff himself, (and other students totally go along with it) he should be punished for all of it? For 'testing' and playing with his influential power? | Which student should be punished? |
| 5293 | It's easier than teaching others not to let him influence them, especially if he is popular and has a little group following.
But you'd also have to teach him to put his influence to good use. Simply teaching him not to dare people to do things like that, without helping him find better things to do with his power would probably be counterproductive and drive Charlie nuts. | Which student should be punished? |
| 5294 | The schools never saw it that way. They might be different now, but general rule was that kids who picked didn't get in trouble, but kids who reacted to the picking were always in trouble. | Which student should be punished? |
| 5295 | What if the reason behind it was more about testing his own power than making mischief? See what I posted to jettles. Would it be a good idea to stop him from influencing other students, without giving him some positive way to play with his influence? (I'm turning the conversation a little more upbeat) | Which student should be punished? |
| 5296 | "Usually" but not always. Some people first realise they have influence, and so they play all kinds of games with it, testing to see what other people will do at their suggestion. It's kind of exciting. Sometimes the intent isn't to make mischief, and they aren't really thinking about the victims, they are feeding the high they get from seeing other people 'follow' them.
So, I think you'd have to figure out what Charlie's motives are before branding him a 'troublemaker'. Maybe he's a decent kid who gets carried away with a newly discovered 'talent' | Which student should be punished? |
| 5297 | >If a society has their act together, when one knows the basic rules of good and evil, the golden rule, and it's more subtle |>branches and variants, in the context of both individuals and society itself as an entity, they should be able to guess what |>the laws are even if they don't know them.
They would also be able to take one look at a behavior, and regardless of any laws, tell whether ot not the person is doing something inherently wrong and harmful or not. > I'm curious, has anyone ever called you an imp > before? Just you. | Which student should be punished? |
| 5298 | > I think
> in his case he actually did eventually come to > recognize the error in his ways (morally, of course, > and not just his error in getting caught), but > I'm sure many do much prison time without ever > having such a realization. I'll have to do a survey > on this when I return from vacation. I have thought of that before. (Oblivious people getting in trouble) I hope you do a survey on it. | Which student should be punished? |
| 5299 | That's kind of what I'm thinking. Kids poke fun and rib each other all the time. If teachers instruct kids not to provoke So-and-so because he over-reacts, he's never going to learn not to over react. Asperger's or not, the responsibility for keeping peace is on civilized people not to make a fuss over minor things. "Provoking" just isn't the same without a reaction. It's more important to stop over-reactions than to stop people from using certain words and phrases, especially if those words and phrases would be totally harmless in the absence of reactions. Someone's shortcomings shouldn't put a damper in other people's freedom. | Which student should be punished? |
| 5300 | I think that's fine, as long as they draw the line before getting into harmful, illegal things. I see nothing wrong with mild, harmless provoking. It's actually beneficial and serves a useful purpose sometimes. | Which student should be punished? |
