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| 2121 | > Reagan's tax cuts caused an increase in tax revenues,
> so it's unlikely to have caused deficts. Were youe vena live during the 80s? This ridiculous statement says 'no.' I grew up in the 80s, I know that all the love reagen gets is bullcrap. He tripled the deficit, sold arms to terrorists and backed Right Wing fasicsts in Central and South America. Reagen has a special level of Hell set aside just for him. | Is "Trickle-down Economics" a good idea? |
| 2122 | > Yes Brian, I was alive in the 80's. I was in
> college when Reagan was elected and did not like > him as president one little bit. When people > spoke of him as the great communicator, someone > who made the people feel good when he spoke, I > looked at them like they were clueless idiots. > > The years since have shown that some of what Reagan > did was a good idea and the presidents since have > made him look positively statesman-like. I hear people try to credit the economic boom of the 1990s to Reagen, but the ONLY way that could be true, is that Reagen crashed the economy so hard it bounced. | Is "Trickle-down Economics" a good idea? |
| 2123 | I think you're living in Candyland, but I just woke up so I'm not going to burst your bubble just yet cause I'm not fully awake yet. | Is "Trickle-down Economics" a good idea? |
| 2124 | > When you get ready for bubble bursting, I suggest
> a reasoned approach with evidence rather than > the ranting and name calling that's your usual > approach. I generally like to use both. Sadly, most people tend to only (want to) notice the cussing that I use to punctuate my arguments, while completely missing (or ignoring) the argument itself. Of course this doesn't change when I make a case for soemthing without cussing, because then people willl look for typos in that post, or will just bring up a previous time when I cussed, basically attempting to use bullcrap to cnacel out reason. I'm sure you've seen that kind of tactic before. It usually goes something like "crap this guy's winning the argument I better ad hominem him on something. Ah ha! He used the C word two years ago! And just last month he misspelled movie! Perfect! That'll work! Throw in a 'you hate America' and I win!" | Is "Trickle-down Economics" a good idea? |
| 2125 | > but I think FDR was one of the worst
> presidents ever due to the things he put in place > that have been so misused in the years since. He created some of the most succesful govenrment programs known to man and you hate him for it? No, hate the Republicans who have shed blood sweat and tears trying to UNDERMINE all those programs non-stop for 50 years, and are only recently gaining some headway on their destruction of the social safety net (which I can only conclude they want to destroy so they can use the material to make hammocks for their yachts).. | Is "Trickle-down Economics" a good idea? |
| 2126 | > I don't hate FDR or the Democrats who've extended
> his programs grotesquely or the Republicans who've > abetted that. I think they've done incredible > damage to the country and to the very people they > claimed to want to help but I'm just not a hateful > person. About the only thing I see that has done > more damage to our society than those social programs > is the drug war. Didn't that also start under > FDR? > > Now you like those programs, the greatest success > of government you say. You ought to be happy > with the direction the country is going then because > I think we're going to get more of them. I think > it's going to be a very bad thing. You're wrong on pretty much every point here. The Drug War as we know it was kicked into full gear under Nixon, but it's inception started as a result of racist Congressmen bought and paid for by paper manufacturers in 1937. As for your outright lie about the New Deal, really, stop watching Fox News. Social Security (an idea FDR cribbed from the American Socialist party BTW, look up Norman Thomas) is one of the most successful government programs in recorded history, not just U.S . history, and Right Wingers have been trying to destroy it for decades. Why? The obvious answer is; they want America's elderly to end up in poverty. So how dare you try to comapre it to Bush's gutted version of FEMA (FEMA under Clinton did excellent work), or his Faith Based Initiatives program. It's dishonest, and disgusting. | Is "Trickle-down Economics" a good idea? |
| 2127 | > Even though I got pretty much everything wrong,
> you agree that the inception of the drug war was > in 1937, when FDR was president. Yes, presidents > since have expanded on it and that's exactly where > I started the discussion about FDR. I said he > started things that were bad ideas and later presidents > used those starting points to make things worse. Except it was Congress, in particular a paper manufacturer friendly guy from Tennesee. I can't remember his name right now, but he famously said that marijuana had to be banned because smoking it might make a black man look at a white woman twice. FDR allowed blacks into the military (albeit into segregated units, but, you know, baby steps). > For the rest of your comment you just fell back > into the name calling and ranting rather than > actual discussion and argument. I never mentioned > FEMA nor faith based initiatives, what you're > doing there is called a strawman argument. That's > when you bring up something I didn't say and use > it to argue that I'm wrong. I was listing sucessful government programs, and not just ones FDR came up with. That's not strawman, that's providng examples. > On the other hand, the faith based initiatives > are a good example of what you can get when you > decide it's okay for government to run everything. > It's an example I might bring up as a cautionary > tale to someone who thinks government run lives > is a good idea. Once the government has the power > to do everything, it might not do what you want > with that power so beware. Yes. And who came up with that FB office I wonder? Not FDR, or any other New Dealer. The erosion of chruch and state seperation comes when people like Reagen and Bush are in power. And you are still arguing very, VERY poorly. You are using the time honored Right Wing tactic of flase equivalency. Let me put it you this way. You are using bad math. FBI (Faith Based Initiatives, not the "Federalis" as a friend of mine calls them) = Bad government program SSI = Government program Erego, SSI = Bad government program This equation works, if you got Fs in math class every single year of school. Now, I was never that great at math, but I never got lower than a D. To me, the real answer goes more like this. FBI = Bad government program SSI = Succesful government program Erego, some program good, some bad, but laws can be reapeld (see prohibition) so Government progam's worth = case by case basis. What I'mt rying to say dab, is that while you are busy distratcing people by taling about my admittedly temper, you're trying to pass a false argument. Basically, your false equivalency is that, since GWB's programs sucked, FDR's must suck too, and that is, pardon my French, utter bullcrap. That's like saying Michael Bay is an excellent director because The Rock was good, while ignoring that every other movie he directed was lamer than Glenn Becks' TV show. | Is "Trickle-down Economics" a good idea? |
| 2128 | > Brian, your strawman was bring up FEMA or faith-based
> initiatives in the first place and then claiming > that I was somehow comparing them with the programs > you like. It was the "Bush gutted version of FEMA," get it right. > I brought up your poor argument strategy in the > hopes that I could direct you to avoid it this > once. I failed. You've made it clear that you > already know that this approach torpedoes your > discussions so I won't bring it up again. Maybe. It's also possible that you brought it up in order to avoid answering my questions, which you did avoid, but hey that's probably just a coincidence right? | Is "Trickle-down Economics" a good idea? |
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