Forum Search
Forum Posts matching all AND Creator is "pcpr" In all forums :| Author | Message |
|---|
pcpr
| | #1 posted August 22, 2000 at 3:05am (EST) |
Maarten wrote:
> Anyway, I sure will filter hitler's comments and surveys.
> And I'm a bit disappointed no one (yet) backed me up here.
Yes, I think the handle is offensive and I know too many people who suffered because of the war. I'm just not sure what the right thing to do would be however. |
|
| Author | Message |
|---|
pcpr
| | #2 posted June 29, 2000 at 3:59pm (EST) |
Cody, I have to disagree. It's not the survey creator's place to decide what's sensitive or not. Who can tell if the response is sensitive but the person writing the comment themselves? Maybe you don't think it's personal to ask if we are involved in blow jobs or not. Maybe you don't think it's a big deal to ask if people have driven while drunk, but if a law enforcement officer reads that survey, a lot of people will be in trouble. So, what if we had a toggle to preclude anon responses, would you be happy with fewer responses? As for anon answers being "pussy", to paraphrase Seinfeld, "Not that there's anything wrong with being pussy!", right?!? |
|
| Author | Message |
|---|
pcpr
| | #3 posted June 26, 2000 at 11:35pm (EST) |
bill wrote:
> pcpr - I think you got that last bit confused (I hope I
> didn't botch the description somewhere). The author can
> always edit it, but if they do it will sit in qualification
> at least another 24 hours.
Cool, I think I misunderstood or mispoke at the time (not completely awake at the time), sorry...
Cool changes!
| pcpr
| | #4 posted June 26, 2000 at 3:50am (EST) |
According to Bill (in the Feedback section) the Qualification process has been changed to allow more people to vote. It will take 24 hours before a survey is released and it takes 24 hours after it has been changed before you can edit it. |
|
| Author | Message |
|---|
pcpr
| | #5 posted June 25, 2000 at 5:12am (EST) |
bill wrote:
> Yeah, I think it was ME who mentioned that in the forum.
> I may do that.
>
> I don't like using needs_work for it though, I think we
> need a new value to clearly distinguish it.
>
> Actually, I think pcpr originally suggested something like
> this.
>
> I like the idea of send the deleted survey via email to
> the author.
>
> =bill
Originally I had suggested a Kill_Me vote that would be heavily overriden by Needs_Work or Reasonable votes (the same way that today one Override vote cancels one Needs_Work so, say, if anyone had a valid vote like Needs_Work or Reasonable, it would cancel say, 5 or 10 Kill_Me votes) -- the idea was that it should be hard for a survey to be killed and avoid the situation where one person votes to kill the survey holding it up for personal reasons. My suggestion has at the very least one serious problem, namely that one person in qualification can hold a survey active by voting it Needs_Work or Reasonable when ten other voters are right about killing the survey, but at that time I thought it was a small price to pay, now I'm not so sure. My other suggestion at that time was that if after say, 7 days there was not a single reasonable vote it should be killed, but I failed to see that there was something like that in place (if it's been a few days with Needs_Work it changes to Fix_Me and people can edit it or kill it).
I love Topper's suggestion because many times it could be a cool survey and it fails only in a couple of places which could easily be fixed.
I prefer Bill's suggestion about the "Delete" vote, I think that my idea of a "Kill_Me" value is way too harsh/negative.
I loved Analog's idea of a time-delay release so more people could vote during qualification, and I'd like to expand it somewhat so people who have more surveys qualified or, even better, who have better approval ratings wait less than newbies or people with awful ratings (for those of you wondering if I'm just suggesting things that would make my life easier: right now I have only 2 surveys approved, one at 40% and the other 50.9%, so I might be affected more negatively than the prolific people).
I also liked Analog's ideas of "Boring" and "Bad_Idea" values very much for when nothing is technically wrong and "Needs_Work" feels wrong, altho I'd suggest some mechanism with weights attached (say, one "Reasonable" kills 3 "Boring" for example). But, for the same reason, I think that the value should be "Reasonable" instead of "Good" because I have in fact voted "Reasonable" when I didn't like the survey at all but there was nothing technically wrong with it, the survey just hit me in the face with one of my prejudices or some idea that grosses me out somehow, but I don't think that is a good reason for me to censor it, if anything, it's a good reason for me to let it out and get a chance to be voted on -- a lot of the time I just realize that other people (sometimes significantly more people) think differently than I do and a few times it even helped me to get over it and get better by exposing me to other people's wise comments -- if we supress surveys at an early stage unnecessarily we are basically making SC worse. I like the fact that "Reasonable" is more some kind of structural vote ("Does this resemble a survey?") than some kind of judgemental vote ("Do you like this survey?"). If we had had a value that essentially meant "There's nothing technically wrong with this but I hate your survey because I'm prejudiced" and I wasn't basically too coward and worried about my image here, I'd have used it...  So, anyway, I wouldn't feel bad tagging surveys "Boring" or "Bad_Idea"...
Another pet peeve of mine is when people just click "Edit" and don't change anything, just to get rid of bad votes, just like TMJ mentioned. Maybe surveys should not be considered "Edited" unless there are changes, altho people can get away with murder by just changing the positions of the answers and it seems complicated to fully check for valid changes without a human moderator (and I think that would be excessive and unproductive). Yet another pet peeve of mine is when someone refuses to delete their ugly survey full of Needs_Work and changes it into something *completely* different and when one looks in the Advanced Stats page one gets very confused by the comments there. Since every single word has changed, why didn't they delete the survey and created a new one? It's not like every single survey they created was approved, and now we even have the "paper trail" to prove it. Altho I confess I just love it when a stupid survey comes from Anon. and gets changed for the better (like when TwM changed "Do you consider homosexuality to be a sin" into "Do you consider homosexuality to be fun").
Maybe time delays for edits might improve that too, one has to wait six hours after each edit to make another one. Maybe if one had to wait for all surveys to leave Qual (released or deleted) before creating more if one has more than 10 surveys in Qual... maybe lifting restrictions the better one's ratings are, so people don't create bad surveys just to rise on the list of creators... maybe getting rid of the video-game-like list that gives rank to creators and tempts people to climb to the top with bad surveys... maybe if I just shut up instead of coming up with worse and worse ideas that would make SC more Nazi than the Nazis... there now, I think I just lost the argument and the subject has to change now, right?
|
|
| Author | Message |
|---|
pcpr
| | #6 posted May 16, 2000 at 4:25pm (EST) |
TJM -- I can't remember exactly, but I think it was a survey about what continents one has been and/or the one about the seven wonders, sorry I can't be more precise... |
|
| Author | Message |
|---|
pcpr
| | #7 posted May 16, 2000 at 1:25am (EST) |
Folks -- please! Did you forget or didn't you see some comment or another mentioning Bill, Jen etc were supposed to be out seeing the Pyramids in Egypt? (Yeah, I know it's hard, but all we can do for now is wait, I think.) |
|
| Author | Message |
|---|
pcpr
| | #8 posted March 28, 2000 at 2:15am (EST) |
I'm usually not the person to sugest censorship, but I was wondering if it's possible (or even a good idea) to have a "Kill It" choice in the qualification process; or something like "It's been 7 days and nobody voted it reasonable" -- I'll be really bummed if the "Hottest Guy at Kiewit" ever passes, given it's history and the author's apparent lack of good will to make it better except for small edits so it won't die. Maybe assigning weights to the choices (each "Reasonable" or "Needs Work" cancels, say, ten "Kill It" for example). |
Next page (only 10 shown here) |
|
- Twitter 
- Facebook 